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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    ok so far disassembly is pretty easy but reinstalling requires torqing down stuff correct?
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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 88lxi-shortram View Post
    ok so far disassembly is pretty easy but reinstalling requires torqing down stuff correct?
    right also taking the head off wrong can warp it

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    i just took the head off of my car (first time ehad gakset iwas scared) but i was easy here what you do

    1) drain coolant and oil

    2) remove air cover, and unplug everything from intake manifold , and carb ( note there are things underneith the intake as well as two bolts that bolt the block to the intake

    3) place the car on jack stands and remove the heat shield and o2 sensor plug the exhaust mounts to block and the header from exhaust pipe ,leave header and intake bolted into the head

    4)jack the engine up and remove left motor mount make sure you use a block of wood when jacking the motor also remove the left wheel

    5) set the number one piston to top dead center

    6) remove the distribotor make sure you mark it,

    7) remove upper timing belt cover and losen the timing belt

    8) remove valve cover and slide off timing belt

    9) un bold the ehad bolts in order and check to make surenothing else is bolted in attached to head intake exhust header or carb

    10) take a deep breath and get an extra hand you can lift the head stright off the motor with the intake exhuast and carb attached, now you only need to replace head gasket , any questions just ask me i can help you

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by bryan42688 View Post
    i just took the head off of my car (first time ehad gakset iwas scared) but i was easy here what you do

    1) drain coolant and oil

    2) remove air cover, and unplug everything from intake manifold , and carb ( note there are things underneith the intake as well as two bolts that bolt the block to the intake

    3) place the car on jack stands and remove the heat shield and o2 sensor plug the exhaust mounts to block and the header from exhaust pipe ,leave header and intake bolted into the head

    4)jack the engine up and remove left motor mount make sure you use a block of wood when jacking the motor also remove the left wheel

    5) set the number one piston to top dead center

    6) remove the distribotor make sure you mark it,

    7) remove upper timing belt cover and losen the timing belt

    8) remove valve cover and slide off timing belt

    9) un bold the ehad bolts in order and check to make surenothing else is bolted in attached to head intake exhust header or carb

    10) take a deep breath and get an extra hand you can lift the head stright off the motor with the intake exhuast and carb attached, now you only need to replace head gasket , any questions just ask me i can help you
    I think he's fuel injected, not sure, he's going to need a much more detailed description he thought the spark plugs were in the block, he is learning though. if the head isn't untorqued in the same sequence it's torqued it can warp the head.

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    I think with his mechanical knowledge he will do much better repairing the head on the block, it's not hard to remove the shavings if you know how to do it. the other thing is a long piece of cloth covered in grease, fed down in there, and removed a number of times, the aluminum chips will stick to it.

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    another idea is to get one of those air holding tools for doing valve work, when you are all done, thread it into the spark plug hole, turn the engine by hand until the exaust valve is open, then apply compressed air to the adapter fitting. all the chips and dust will blow out the exaust valve. if you do this,don't use grease on the threads or the grease will keep the chips from moving

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    If you haven't pulled that plug back out, I'd leave it alone and just see if it is going to run decent. You can rip it apart later if it warrants fixing at all. Get your plug wires all on in the correct order and inspect the intake manifold area for vacuum leaks. Then try and fire it up. You say it stalls if you put it in gear, have you checked for any engine codes on the computer? It is located under your drivers seat. Turn on the key and check for flashing light. Count the number of flashes and note each code. Then I'd disconnect the battery and clear all codes then hook battery back up and see if it will run. Then check for codes again under drivers seat to see if codes are the same and report findings back here.

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    whynot just run it on two cylender's until the engine end of life if you dont want to fix ityou can turn your 110hp car in a 55hp as long as you have the two pistions balanced out and remember where they are if you go to refire them u should be ok so for example if you fucked up one of the plugs on the outside not the two in the middle then unplug both outside plug wires , if it was one in the middle the unplug them see how it runs as for where the wires go the distrubtor should have 1 2 3 4 on them and the headshould have engravings with there number

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    i got started today but once i got under the valve cover i has no idea what to do. and everyone i called said they wont help me so im lost and have no idea where to go or how to fix it
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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 88lxi-shortram View Post
    i got started today but once i got under the valve cover i has no idea what to do. and everyone i called said they wont help me so im lost and have no idea where to go or how to fix it
    like i've said about ten times already, get the repair kit, fix the stripped out spark plug hole, tape a piece of tube to the end of a vacuum cleaner hose, stick it in there, vacuum it all out, you don't have the skills to pull a head off, and put it back on with success, not putting you down,but you just don't. if he gets that kit, can someone up there show him how to do it? if I was closer I would help him, but i don't hold a lot of hope for this engine.

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    ok im going to try to do it by myself but ill post pics and try to get how to info and step by step instructions lol.
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    ok heres an update on the whole forced plug situation. i bought a repair kit at autozone for 30 dollars and got home to realize i needed thread lock or silicone. had to walk all the way bak. but o well. i got everything prepped and ready for the repair and it went relativly smooth. and i got the insert installed and now its jus waiting to set before i try to crank it. but i promised pics so here they are. hopefully tomoro ill have a video of it running or even better driving it
    http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/8872/1000386u.jpg
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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 88lxi-shortram View Post
    thats the main problem though even though i strive to be a mechanic i dont know what your talking about or how to do it most of the time. i love to learn new things about cars and being on this forum helps tremndously but when it comes down to it i need a partner to work with because im inexpierienced and my dad couldnt find his way around a honda for his life. is there anyway i could get the head off w/o removing the engine? which would be easier?
    If you do not know how to cut new threads with a tap, I would suggest you practice on a piece of metal before trying it in the engine head.
    Try getting a piece of metal thick enough to tap threads on it, drill holes large enough to accept the tap (around 13mm should be fine, maybe 1/2" would work too) and try your hand there.
    A word of WARNING! You use brute force with a tap you'll break it and then god help you. The way I do that is going 1/4-1/2 of turn and then back up a little bit, another 1/4-1/2 turn forward, a little bit backward, and so on. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say here.
    Also, do not apply too much force with the tap handle. Grab it as close to the center as you can.

    Bottom line: go SLOWLY, carefully, and gently. And by all means practice a little before you try on the head itself.

    (UPDATE I see you figured it out. Good for you!
    For some reason your posting showed up AFTER I posted mine... or maybe I am too drunk but I have not drunk... oh well, hope you get her back in the roads)
    Last edited by ecogabriel; 06-25-2010 at 05:42 AM.
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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    well bad news everybody... the engine still doesnt wants to run. when i cranked it up the engine was trying to ignite and u heard this sound almost like an old man with emphazima would make as he coughs. doesnt sound good for the engine but whatever happenes ill be on the hunt for a new engine.
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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 88lxi-shortram View Post
    well bad news everybody... the engine still doesnt wants to run. when i cranked it up the engine was trying to ignite and u heard this sound almost like an old man with emphazima would make as he coughs. doesnt sound good for the engine but whatever happenes ill be on the hunt for a new engine.
    don't give up on it yet, it sounds like a timing issue, I know what you mean that sound is usually the ignition timing being off and causing the engine to fire when a valve is open. did you check the timing belt

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    idk anything about that either... but im not sure but i dont think the sparkplug goes in all the way even with the insert. but what do i do with timing? cuz i found an engine with 86000 miles and a 6 month warranty for backup.
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