Well, once you get through with it and test it for a while maybe you can sell a few - to us!
Well, once you get through with it and test it for a while maybe you can sell a few - to us!
Cygnus has adapters he's making to hold energy suspension GM type urethane mounts, they look great and hold an easy to find energy suspension mount, I think they would be more cost effective then these, I used some aluminum pieces that I already had to make these, and then the urethane is 27 bucks plus shipping when I'm able to afford it. the aluminum alone would probably make these so high priced they wouldn't be worth it. I'm going to even use one of his adapters for a rear mount. He had them all figured out, but hadn't started making them yet yet.Originally Posted by DBMaster
here's a shocker, my mount is 73 MM tall, the correct height according to what Cygnus found out:
I'm thinking whats happening is instead of selling separate mounts for the different years, they just assume all of this generation is the same, and sell one mount for all of them, I have the correct stamped bracket for my 86, the mount is just wrong, every mount i've been able to get my hands on is this height. I've been trying to figure out for a long time why my engine sat cockeyed, I've swapped mounts, done everything I could, and it was just the wrong dam mount. what I've done until I get the urethane, is machine a pin with threads in the top, the pin sets the motor mount bracket at 73mm, installed height, right now it's 1/8 of an inch taller then it's supposed to be, I had made this bracket to what the mount at advance measured, and I had to machine an inch out of it, after I got the correct height from Cygnus.
it's a miracle!! the engine sits level!!
Could this be what causes the infamous B20 lean? I think my A20 sits cockeyed too.
Dr_Snooz
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1989 Honda Accord LX-i Coupe, 240k miles, MT swap, rear disc swap
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it could be causing it, i'll be glad when cygnus gets the mount adapter he designed rolling, it takes the urethane mount from energy suspension. I was going to use one for a rear mount, i think the cast bracket can be bolted on to bring the engine level also
Damn you Honda!! Damn you!! [shakes fist in the air]
In the last year for the 3g they just HAD to throw a wrench into things.
Nice work on the DIY poly mount though, and I'm glad my measurements helped out. I'm interested to see how the casting works out and what the durometer ends up like. A softer grade of poly would be nice for a street car mount to keep the vibration down some. Any idea about the shrinkage you'll get while it's curing?
Kinda sucks that there is a taller mount out there though. That means the ones I'm making won't work directly in place of those. But I think it should be possible to use the stamped type bracket instead of the cast one to correct the height.
Cool stuff.
C|
yea i think you swap in either the cast bracket or the stamped depending on which mount they give you, as far as I know both cars have the same cross member and the same block, so the only variable is the bracket. if you make the mount to the 73 mm, all they would need to make it fit where the taller mount is, is a spacer. as far as mine, from what i've seen with this poly used, it really doesn't shrink. it's not really a mold, the aluminum piece is the mount, it just gets filled with poly, the pin for the finished mount is a little shorter then the inside, and gets a large washer on the bottom, it basically "floats" in the poly until it cures. then it's locked in place. the round aluminum piece is hollow inside. thats where the poly goes, it has to be watertight during curing, because the unhardened material is like motor oil. I still need to drill and tap for a 1/8 pipe thread at the top, i'll do something with a funnel to screw in to fill it. I'll be using the mid durometer material which is in the 80's range and close to energy suspensions flexibilityDamn you Honda!! Damn you!! [shakes fist in the air]
In the last year for the 3g they just HAD to throw a wrench into things.
Nice work on the DIY poly mount though, and I'm glad my measurements helped out. I'm interested to see how the casting works out and what the durometer ends up like. A softer grade of poly would be nice for a street car mount to keep the vibration down some. Any idea about the shrinkage you'll get while it's curing?
Kinda sucks that there is a taller mount out there though. That means the ones I'm making won't work directly in place of those. But I think it should be possible to use the stamped type bracket instead of the cast one to correct the height.
Cool stuff.
C|
I had a similar problem when I made my own mount regarding the height.
So, is mass production on your minds guys?
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3geez member since July 12 2000
I need these parts!
https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67742
I know cygnus is going to sell his, but I don't think mine would be cost effective
I'm definitely going to be mass producing mine. I have all the parts now, it's just been a challenge finding time to work on them. Should be fairly soon though I think.
C|
^I'm sure you'll start a thread when you're ready, but I may be interested as long as the vibration isn't any worse than with the stock mount.
i'll be getting one of his mounts too for the rear mount
I'll get one of these too.
http://pages.videotron.com/omus
3geez member since July 12 2000
I need these parts!
https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67742
i bet these mounts will help alot in performance engines...I saw when my car was dynoed and the engine sure likes to move alot on its stock mounts
1989 Honda Accord LX-i
B18c1 swap since 7/2011
175whp and 132tq
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good job on the motor mount brother, i got so tired of the oem replacements breaking!
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