Power Steering Problem
So the pressure hose to the pump was leaking,I replaced the line with one from my parts car.Now the steering is really hard when sitting still but gets a little easier when driving.I changed the pump but that didn't help,has anyone had this problem before.
anyone have any ideas.
hmm maybe dirt got in the system?
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Did you bleed the system by turning lock to lock a few times?
Dr_Snooz
"I like to take hammers, and just break stuff, just break stuff." - Beavis
1989 Honda Accord LX-i Coupe, 240k miles, MT swap, rear disc swap
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did you put fluid back in
Yes i put fluid back in[da],and yes i bled the system.I drove it today with the cap off reservoir to see if i could get the air out,still stays hard and soft.Do you think it's the fluid because i couldn't get Honda fluid,all they had was the pres-tone stuff that said it was for Asian and euro cars.
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you put prestone in your system? uh ohOriginally Posted by import racer
Get rid of that fluid ASAP! Honda OEM ONLY.
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/for...e/23441/page1/
Time to start budgeting for a new rack.
Dr_Snooz
"I like to take hammers, and just break stuff, just break stuff." - Beavis
1989 Honda Accord LX-i Coupe, 240k miles, MT swap, rear disc swap
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nappa has a fluid for Honda I've had good luck with it's not cheap though
That's the reason I run OEM power steering fluid, Honda MTF fluid, and OEM filters, and gaskets, and pretty much everything OEM Honda. I have no issues with anything.
I can't read the signature rules so MrBen deleted my signature.
i think the nappa fluid is pretty high quality, i wouldn't put anything from walmart in my car other then antifreeze and oil
Tim, did you read the thread I posted?
So the third rack (the first one from the new jobber) works great for a whole week before it too leaks like a New Orleans levee. I tell the manager at NAPA. He calls the jobber. Now the jobber wants me to bring the dead rack directly to him. I'm sure these guys still think I'm doing something wrong.
I pull out the rack and bring it in. The jobber pulls off a boot, sniffs the fluid floating around in it and goes ballistic.
[Armenian Accent] "GASOLINE!!! YOU PUT GASOLINE IN THERE!!![/Armenian Accent]
"No I didn't."
[Armenian Accent] "YES YOU DID!! I SMELL IT!! [/Armenian Accent]
"Why would I do that? I wanted to finish the job three racks ago."
The guy grabs one of his techs. [Armenian Accent] "SMELL THIS!! [/Armenian Accent]
The tech says, "Smells like solvent."
I look at the fluid. Sure enough, there are powdered bits of seal floating in suspension. What the...
The tech asks, "What fluid did you use?"
"I used the NAPA power steering fluid made for Hondas. They gave it to me free for my trouble."
"Don't use that fluid anymore. Use either the real thing or ATF ."
Meanwhile the owner has gone batty. [Armenian Accent] "I GIVE YOU RACK BUT NO MORE WARRANTY FOR YOU!! THIS IS LAST RACK!!! NO MORE!!!" [/Armenian Accent]
I still had a warranty with NAPA so I didn't care what he said but I wanted the whole thing to be done. I take the tech's advice and go to the local Honda dealer for some fluid. Since it's a Honda, I'm thinking I'll get bent over for this stuff. Meanwhile, it's $3.87 a can. This is a whole 38 cents more than the fake stuff at NAPA. I find a partially full can of the NAPA brew and it smells just like the fluid that came out of the rack.
Turns out Honda does not recognize anyone else's Honda fluid except their own. There is a warning printed on every single brand of non-Honda Honda power steering fluid. It's just like a cigarette warning label.
"This product is not authorized or approved by the manufacturer of Honda or Acura automobiles."
Well, great. Nine pints later.
P.S. when I go out of my way to link references to something else, I mean business.
i use autozone branded... not even the accel stuff honda says to use.. lol...
right now it has autozone and 15w40 motor oil in it works perfectly fine
1988 Honda Accord LX-i Coupe 123k miles.
i top mine up with old atf or waste oil, been doing the job just fine for me in the last couple years
strange, i didn't have any problems with it, it was branded as a direct replacement fo honda, the main issue i had before was the lucas power steering stop leak.Tim, did you read the thread I posted?
P.S. when I go out of my way to link references to something else, I mean business.
I guess I'll have to get some honda stuff as soon as i get some money,Usually get the honda stuff made by bardal but that was all they had and that's why i got it.Thanks guys.
i dont know about the lucas stuff, seems like its a hit or miss depending how far gone the seals are. I ended up putting this in my 87 and it lasted a few months until i got around to changing the rack out.
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I put the lucas in to stop a small leak, within a week it had destroyed the rack seals, the pump seals, and the seals in the speed sensor. I had fluid coming out anywhere there was a seal. I had to buy another rack, rebuild the pump, and rebuild the speed sensor. all of the seals looked like they had just dissolved
Ya know, just because something says it's good for Hondas, doesn't mean it will work. Honda has a brand to defend, everybody else tries varying degrees of hard to put something together that will sell at a competitive price and still work well. Sometimes they succeed, sometimes they don't, or won't.
Give you an example. About 30 years ago I worked for a power tool accessories company. We bought things like drill bits, and put them in packages for a dozen or so private labels in addition to our own brand. At that time, there was a store chain called Zayres, a discounter of the bigger box variety. Their buyer had really held us up on some new orders, wanting more than his usual payoff. My company's owner solved his margin problem by substituting carbon steel bits for the high-speed steel bits that the package promised. "Why should I give a damn," he said. "When people complain, it will be Zayres name they look at, not ours."
Zayres never tested our stuff, and we never heard a complaint. From that day forward, they always got carbon steel bits, and we made a lot more money.
Honda would never allow something like this to happen. Buy Honda OEM, it's your best shot at stuff that works well in your car. Everything else is a crap shoot, imo.
Last edited by w261w261; 11-10-2010 at 12:43 PM.
To be honest wit you i think u should remove the whole power steering system out your car.. Its less stress to the motor which = more power.. Better steering at high speeds and give u way better control wen drivin... The only thing thats gonna maybe gettin u tight is parrallel parking, but you'll get use to it in like 2 weeks, u wouldnt even notice its off. Trust me, i did this to my car and o'man im lovin it LOL.. If u wanna try it, jus remove the belt for now, dont like it u can put the belt back.. but i doubt after weeks u gonna want to put it back on... I threw my pump and everything in the street after a week!
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it's variable rate power steeing, above 15 or so it doesn't provide power assist
Edd Zachary.
Also, a lot of people have other people that drive their 3gee that pretty much require power steering. If it weren't for space and a leaky rack, I wouldn't be getting rid of it on my Challenge Honda.
im thinking about removing my power steering on both of my cars can anyone help me out where to start or a diagram? or the belt.
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