Thanks Everyone...it pays off to spend the extra day cleaning and painting it..Its defiantly not perfect ..But its a huge difference .I need to clean the intake and alcohol off the sticky stuff off it since i took the PGMI sticker off..The power stearing pump need to be cleaned also and the line painted when the two bolts are.
By williamsmchad at 2011-02-14
By williamsmchad at 2011-05-11
And where the hell is the Throttle Position Sensor ?
Last edited by -$MOKIN-; 05-12-2011 at 01:19 PM.
its on the backside of your tb. the little black sensor. maybe its just loose or got over-looked during the swap.
Looks really clean..I see you polished the dizzy.
the TPS is on the side of the TB.
Yep ran out and looked and i broke it .. I guess when i dropped the motor in...Originally Posted by Pico
I painted the diZZY Pico and thank you .
I got a good question for ya Pico....What is the assembly called that the spedo cable connects to into the transmition .There are 2 hose lines that are connected to it also .
Becuase i broke one clip off of it and just skipped it out of the loop .
That's the speed sensor
Yeah shes all tweakin now ...DAMN HELP
Im going to have to go grab a different throttle position sensor form the Jy tomorrow . I tweaked it out by putting a manual one on without the cv cable. Even thought i lost the code 7 my tranny Is slipping all crazy becuase i had no clue about it.
I changed over the throttle linkage from the auto but the tranny is still slipping even after i checked the tv cable and it switches gears jsut fine until it warms up then goes nowere in anygear until you turn it off then turn it back on then it goes back into gear and repeats itself.
So i got to mess with it today .
Start it and it sounds like its got a blower on it .rapid low level rev. And flashed a code 14.I figured out about the air idle control valve took it apart and cleaned it and put it back on. It was still throwing the same code so i drove it while it was giving me the code and not at any time did it spin in between going into gears. After i drove it for a second then turned it off it lost the code but and went to a bad egr idle. then went back to slipping .
So im going to go get a tps sensor / throttle housing / egr valve / speed sensor and a different idle control valve sensor from my car in the Jy .
I think if i replace all of those things im going to fix my problem...
At least im hoping so .
But shes not doing so good and tomorrows the day ..
Any ideas why shes slipping? I don't think that its my tranny going out for some reason .Its just weird how it shifts good right after u start it back up after it went out.
Prolly somthing to do with the speed sensor housing that i broke a clip off of that i thought was tranny fluid that ran threw it..
Last edited by -$MOKIN-; 05-21-2011 at 09:10 PM.
problem with the tranny was the outter cV axle was popping out of the spindles. wow ...bolt was stuck inside the rim cover totally off. WOW.. IM A TOTAL NOOB
Last edited by -$MOKIN-; 08-16-2011 at 12:29 PM.
Its been some time...
Figured out that my serge problem is my distributor..I got a TDC ecu code 8 .When i put this old distributor i had on it. But i lost the low idle 1500 -1750 serge i had.. So im looking at trying to rebuilding one of them...Although i have never done it.Id sure in the hell save the money.. The one i put on seems like its getting stuck sometimes in the dizzys rotation ? and it will pop a little . Then sometime it wont pop and the check engine light wont come on.the code.
If ya got a good distributor fro sale cheap im game. and if u got he know how to rebuild one...id like to find out what i can do and build one of out two with a couple parts.
Other problems to....she keeps breaking lug nuts. lso looking for longer studs too ..
Shes about ready for some more work,
Im putting the back springs on too. when i do it . still haven't put them on.. so i have some pics ..
Last edited by -$MOKIN-; 08-16-2011 at 12:04 PM.
Its been some time...
Figured out that my serge problem is my distributor..I got a TDC ecu code 8 .When i put this old distributor i had on it. But i lost the low idle 1500 -1750 serge i had.. So im looking at trying to rebuilding one of them...Although i have never done it.Id sure in the hell save the money.. The one i put on seems like its getting stuck sometimes in the dizzys rotation ? and it will pop a little . Then sometime it wont pop and the check engine light wont come on.the code.
If ya got a good distributor fro sale cheap im game. and if u got he know how to rebuild one...id like to find out what i can do and build one of out two with a couple parts.
Other problems to....she keeps breaking lug nuts. lso looking for longer studs too ..
Shes about ready for some more work,
Im putting the back springs on too. when i do it . still haven't put them on.. so i have some pics
You should read this thread before diving in.
https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64421
If I were in your shoes, I would buy this distributor off eBay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/86-87...ht_3024wt_1165
It's entirely new. I haven't tried one, but it's what I would try if I needed a distributor.
Dr_Snooz
"I like to take hammers, and just break stuff, just break stuff." - Beavis
1989 Honda Accord LX-i Coupe, 240k miles, MT swap, rear disc swap
Shop manual downloads available here: CLICK TO VIEW
Thanks Snooz........Im goong to take one apart and see what i can get into...
im doing mine tomorrow with the new innovative mounts
WELL BOYS ... WE MOVED .TRAILER AND ALL ...BROUGHT HER DOWN TO FLORIDA..!!! she hasnt been running for awhile.. and it its comng down to needing her as a every day driver again.
I had went to the daytona beach junk yard and got a new spindle. since i broke 2 lug studs 3 times on the same spindle, and a lower control arm . that the inner bushing went bad on the other side.
I had a old distributor on it that went bad when i got her going yesterday sp i went back to another one i had and the code 9 disappears that poped up yesterday ..
Today ... i put the spindle on and put the other dis. i had back on. still cant figure out what the serge is from and why i am idled so high.. i still get the 1200 -1500 surge ..and i need it gone liek asap..
Funny thing i found today was the upper motor mount bolt was gone and the mount was basically nothing..lol
I so need to get one.It doens help when the frekaing thing slamms in gear at high idle serge...
Its a real pain in the ass..
Anyways she lives...
I need some good ideas to kick this idle deal in the ass...
WHAT ARE SOMETHINGS I CAN DO ?
WE GOTTA GET HER BACK ON THE ROAD !!!!
What would go bad in my dist. to get a idle serge ?
-----All comments are welcome !!!
Last edited by -$MOKIN-; 01-05-2012 at 05:40 PM.
someone please help me with this idle serge thing/// PLLEEASE
I assumed you did most of this already, but here's what I can think of that you can look at
1) Clean IAC Valve.
2) Check Coolant Level
3) Make sure the cooling system has no air in it, bleed the MoFo out of it.
4) check for any codes
5) check voltage at Coolant Temp Sensor
6) Maybe try to Seafoam the engine (???)
7) Do a compression Check
Thats my suggestions for now
I did everything besides the foam , a compression check , or the voltage from the coolant temp sensor. I never thought it could be that .. i had to replace it once.....imma go look at it right now and make sure that the wire is in there.. and connected properly .i dont have a meter to check the voltage
Pico you need to come to florida and get the honda right for me..Lmao
I did notice one thing tho and correct me if im wrong arnt the 2 plugs on the thermo housing different ? like the plugs are supposed to be differnt right?
only the green will fit the left sensor on the thermo housing?
I redid some of the wire harness and i think i got the wrong plug on it and maybe put the wrong sensor in. ?
Last edited by -$MOKIN-; 02-21-2012 at 04:16 PM.
Time to get her back going...
She been sitting becuase of all the problems she has had . But i got to use her now . So i got to get her 100 percent again.
IM going to do a tranny flush and if that doesnt solve the problem im going to have to replace the transmition.
The idle problem .. Could be a million differnt things , So when i pull the tranmisiton im going to probably put another intake gasket , another set of injectors i have , new hose lines under the intake again , all new vacumn lines again , this other air idle control valve i have after i soak it ,(get at me with a good cleaning method on that) and the one of only things i havent done with the slut ,a new timing belt ---never did a timing belt ..Ive been leaning towards my timing being off due to the light rpm idle i get with the idle serge that i cant get to calm down .
So im gong to have to read up on the timing belt..shouldn't be to hard. il have the motor on the floor so it should be pretty easy and whats 20 bucks and a little time ?
If i leave my relay in for my ac fan .. it just turns on every once in a while for no reason . Never figured that one out either ...But it still does it for no reason ,, checked that and it did the same thing so until i get input on the problem with that il just leave the relay out for another 5 years..lol
Last edited by -$MOKIN-; 02-21-2012 at 04:36 PM.
both the plugs on the thremo housing are different, one for the TW sensor an the other is a switch for the radiator fan. The idle issue shouldn't be that hard, just follow the instructions Pico gave you or follow the ones in the the repair manual (very handy). Does the fan turn off after a while if you leave the relay in?
With the idle iVe tried everything... its still sitting in the garage . im shooting for next weekend to do the tranny.. im going to have to pull one from the JY.
Gota picture on what each sensor looks like on the thermo housing... im thinking i have the wrong ones on it. i had rewired some points on the wireing harness and i think i hosed it up and put the wrong sensor in. all i know is that i can put the wire on either sensor and i thouhgt they were differnt.
the idle = im thinking the timing is off
Yea sounds like your timing may have jumped a tooth. Mine is basically doing the same thing. Ill start it up and it will sit around 1500 but then after driving and warming up she sit at 2000 in park and wont go down. I set her up for TDC to see how bad she is off and cant see the timing marks so im gonna go ahead and change the timing belt while im resetting her.
On hot day, my fan turns on after I drive it (not sure which fan) but after a while it turns off automatically, my dads accord does the same thing.
Maybe those sensors are cause your idle problems. I don't have a pic but I can get you one.
It just might be the prob with the idle serge..and yeah a pic would be great also if u could check to mmake sure that the plug wont fit both sensros would be great.
And it would be like a day later and the fan would kick on for no reason
My idle basically will rev at 2000 when warming up . then when it does it jump from 1250 to 1750 give or take a few until u put it in gear then you have to hold the breaks down pretty good and its at 1000. another wierd thing it does is when ur rolling and you throw it into nurtral and come to a stop it doesnt idle weird until; you get to like 1 miles a hour then it goes to the serge
Last edited by -$MOKIN-; 03-01-2012 at 06:20 PM.
Both the plugs and sensors are different. The yellow plug goes on the blue sensor and black plug on the black sensor. I don't know which sensor in which! lol
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