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    Re: Lizardskin Equivalent for $10?(Ceramic Coating)

    Quote Originally Posted by stat1K View Post
    but the obx is widely available
    but the quality was junk, i saw the pictures of it, it really sucks S&S went out of buisness, this looks to be a really high quality header, definitly worth the money to have coated, They had one of the best reputations in the industry, just not enough buisness in this lousy economy to keep the doors open, thats taken out a lot of the good aftermarket companies,
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    Re: Lizardskin Equivalent for $10?(Ceramic Coating)

    Quote Originally Posted by stat1K View Post
    but the obx is widely available
    truth....i owned one...quality was alright but it still needs a flex pipe instead of the ball and joint.

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    but the quality was junk, i saw the pictures of it, it really sucks S&S went out of buisness, this looks to be a really high quality header, definitly worth the money to have coated, They had one of the best reputations in the industry, just not enough buisness in this lousy economy to keep the doors open, thats taken out a lot of the good aftermarket companies,
    lost...mine was pretty good quality unlike daves....you can pm hondalude86 because i sold them to him when he bought the coupe...i was going to installed them but my exhaust guy never got around to it...but the quality of welds look better than the pacesetter i had.
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    Question Re: Lizardskin Equivalent for $10?(Ceramic Coating)

    What if i did some research and found an SS header made for like an F-series or B-series, That's about as big as our exhaust ports...and cut off the flange and TIG an A-series SS flange on it? Or would it be best to get a shitty OBX and grind/filler weld it better to fit the A-Series...?
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    Re: Lizardskin Equivalent for $10?(Ceramic Coating)

    It's going to take a bit more work than just a flange change. The A series motor has different port spacing than most other Honda motors.

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    Re: Lizardskin Equivalent for $10?(Ceramic Coating)

    Quote Originally Posted by firefighterwhite89 View Post
    What if i did some research and found an SS header made for like an F-series or B-series, That's about as big as our exhaust ports...and cut off the flange and TIG an A-series SS flange on it? Or would it be best to get a shitty OBX and grind/filler weld it better to fit the A-Series...?
    there is someone on here that makes the A20 flanges, if the tubes were cut off flush and moved, it's possible it might work to change the flange, you'll have to find a used one though, as S&S went out of business

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    Re: Lizardskin Equivalent for $10?(Ceramic Coating)

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    there is someone on here that makes the A20 flanges, if the tubes were cut off flush and moved, it's possible it might work to change the flange, you'll have to find a used one though, as S&S went out of business
    I'm guessing he meant stainless steel, not S&S, and just failed with his use of 'a''an'.
    Lostforawhile:we have to pick on him he's CAH he spray painted himself into this corner with the accord.

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    Re: Lizardskin Equivalent for $10?(Ceramic Coating)

    Quote Originally Posted by turabaka View Post
    I'm guessing he meant stainless steel, not S&S, and just failed with his use of 'a''an'.
    ah, they were discussed earlier in the thread so i figured that's what he meant

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    Re: Lizardskin Equivalent for $10?(Ceramic Coating)

    Quote Originally Posted by firefighterwhite89 View Post
    What if i did some research and found an SS header made for like an F-series or B-series, That's about as big as our exhaust ports...and cut off the flange and TIG an A-series SS flange on it? Or would it be best to get a shitty OBX and grind/filler weld it better to fit the A-Series...?
    you dont trust the OBX?

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    Re: Lizardskin Equivalent for $10?(Ceramic Coating)

    Quote Originally Posted by MessyHonda View Post
    you dont trust the OBX?
    That'd be a huge negative. Wasn't that the header here on a thread somewhere that had poor craftmanship? To where the flange/piping was horribly welded, like a 4 year old did it? I'm thinking it was an OBX someone was pointing this out on in a pic. I think Lostforawhile knows the thread. I think he commented a good bit on it. But, maybe i'm thinking of a wrong header company...But it wasn't S&S(Notice there is an & sign, Unlike the universal SS(Stainless Steel) abreviation) and it wasn't Paceshitter either. And yes i know the flanges/spacing is different. All metal flexes to a point. then weld.
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    Re: Lizardskin Equivalent for $10?(Ceramic Coating)



    the paint i used.
    and id trust the OBX, they usually make good parts for cheap.

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    Re: Lizardskin Equivalent for $10?(Ceramic Coating)

    Quote Originally Posted by firefighterwhite89 View Post
    That'd be a huge negative. Wasn't that the header here on a thread somewhere that had poor craftmanship? To where the flange/piping was horribly welded, like a 4 year old did it? I'm thinking it was an OBX someone was pointing this out on in a pic. I think Lostforawhile knows the thread. I think he commented a good bit on it. But, maybe i'm thinking of a wrong header company...But it wasn't S&S(Notice there is an & sign, Unlike the universal SS(Stainless Steel) abreviation) and it wasn't Paceshitter either. And yes i know the flanges/spacing is different. All metal flexes to a point. then weld.
    It was an obx, I know who bought it, but for some reason the brain is not working, thats the one with the awful welds and where the one port was hogged out way over size

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    Re: Lizardskin Equivalent for $10?(Ceramic Coating)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdurr View Post


    the paint i used.
    and id trust the OBX, they usually make good parts for cheap.
    that's what I used on my stock manifold and after about six months it flaked, It was beadblasted first, then baked on, and still started coming off

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    Re: Lizardskin Equivalent for $10?(Ceramic Coating)

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    It was an obx, I know who bought it, but for some reason the brain is not working, thats the one with the awful welds and where the one port was hogged out way over size
    BAM! See? Who the heck wants something of such horrid craftsmanship? Not I said the man who paid attention.

    I can do better than them on my own with a TIG welder, and it'd look so much cleaner. Pacesetter and OBX are FTL...And they're our only option pretty much...or did i miss something?
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    Re: Lizardskin Equivalent for $10?(Ceramic Coating)

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    that's what I used on my stock manifold and after about six months it flaked, It was beadblasted first, then baked on, and still started coming off
    weird. well ill see how long it last on my car lol. prob not long then

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    Re: Lizardskin Equivalent for $10?(Ceramic Coating)

    Quote Originally Posted by firefighterwhite89 View Post
    BAM! See? Who the heck wants something of such horrid craftsmanship? Not I said the man who paid attention.

    I can do better than them on my own with a TIG welder, and it'd look so much cleaner. Pacesetter and OBX are FTL...And they're our only option pretty much...or did i miss something?
    as far as I know there are still people who can laser cut the flange for our cars, the guys running turbo use those flanges to make their own manifolds, you may have to search, you could measure the tube centers on a different header, to see if they are close enough to make fit, cut them off flush, do a little light prying, and weld to the new flange. once most 4-1 header tubes are cut off, they will move around quite a bit, once you get them tacked securely in place, then can be finish welded, oh it was itzdave who bought the first OBX on here.

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    Re: Lizardskin Equivalent for $10?(Ceramic Coating)

    Ok. I will look into it.



    Let me know how long your paint lasts tdurr.
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    Re: Lizardskin Equivalent for $10?(Ceramic Coating)

    i bought the 2nd set of OBX....and mine came in perfect...i wish i would of taken pics the ports were nice and the welds were good. so sad that my exhaust didnt have time to fix it

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