whipped by hyundai

[stat1K]

or vtech

[RAZR]

or vtech

lol Yeah i dont quiet understand why its like that. Unless he really doesnt kno how to spell it

[gfrg88]

why not just do like a 75 wet shot? Cheap, easy, fast

[gfrg88]

[countryson]

I would recommend that you get your mileage back up to the 30+ it should be and then laugh at your friend for his inefficient car.

yeah 30mpg aint gonna happen with how i drive and where i live.

Nitrous has been a thought, like a 50hp shot tho. I have a heavy foot that doesnt need the incentive of nitrous

I wouldnt run exhuast bigger than 2 1/4 on this car, anything bigger would be pointless and take away what little bottom end it has. cat will be goin bye bye tho.

I have considered a glass pack as a muffler, ive ran em many a times, had one an 18in on my 4cyl jeep, sounded pretty good, not real raspy or loud. My k10 has 2 24in glass packs on it and it purrs like a kitten, then you mash it ans roars like a tiger

Im not gonna do an obd1 conversion, small torque cam is probably as deep as ill go.

I sure as hell aint rolling it off a cliff, set it on fire maybe. Better vengeful satisfaction.

i drove a 98 prelude with v-tec in it once, Its a neat feeling when it kicks in and after words i understood why so many people think its "soo omg fast" Not knocking it or anything, just made me understand more.

Does any one make a header and back kit? Thanks for everyones input thus far

[RAZR]

yeah 30mpg aint gonna happen with how i drive and where i live.

Nitrous has been a thought, like a 50hp shot tho. I have a heavy foot that doesnt need the incentive of nitrous

I wouldnt run exhuast bigger than 2 1/4 on this car, anything bigger would be pointless and take away what little bottom end it has. cat will be goin bye bye tho.

I have considered a glass pack as a muffler, ive ran em many a times, had one an 18in on my 4cyl jeep, sounded pretty good, not real raspy or loud. My k10 has 2 24in glass packs on it and it purrs like a kitten, then you mash it ans roars like a tiger

Im not gonna do an obd1 conversion, small torque cam is probably as deep as ill go.

I sure as hell aint rolling it off a cliff, set it on fire maybe. Better vengeful satisfaction.

i drove a 98 prelude with v-tec in it once, Its a neat feeling when it kicks in and after words i understood why so many people think its "soo omg fast" Not knocking it or anything, just made me understand more.

Does any one make a header and back kit? Thanks for everyones input thus far

You have two options when going with headers. You can get a pacesetter header or a obx header. Both available on eBay.
The obx header is also available here if you don't like eBay

http://www.erzperformance.com/mobile/default.aspx#Home

[2oodoor]

89 model? speaking of v tech, assure your bypass valve is functioning properly ...you know the one that opens up the intake runner for WOT

[gfrg88]

obx header off ebay. cheap.

90 accord test will bolt right up-ebay

Pacesetter is the only cat-back that will work(crappy though)-ebay?

3" CAI-ebay tube and k&n filter should be more than good.

272 cam- Delta

if you can find an LS(b18a/b) intake mani, or better yet an SI(b16) intake mani and throttle body do it. Easy to mod. and cheap. Might even consider getting a knock off mani off ebay too

[countryson]

whats the advantage to the other intakes? just better air flow? any real difference tween the obx or pacesetter header?

[gfrg88]

what you mean?? an intake tube is just that, a tube. filter is what really makes the difference, imo. if you're looking for every bit of power I'd look into a velocity stack with filter. OBX seems better, 4-1 "race" style. IIRC, it's an S&S replica. pacesetter is pretty crappy. For how close they are in price, I would get the OBX any day over the paceshitter..

[RAZR]

what you mean?? an intake tube is just that, a tube. filter is what really makes the difference, imo. if you're looking for every bit of power I'd look into a velocity stack with filter. OBX seems better, 4-1 "race" style. IIRC, it's an S&S replica. pacesetter is pretty crappy. For how close they are in price, I would get the OBX any day over the paceshitter..

I think by intake hes talking about the intake manifold.

[CzEcHy]

90 accord test pipe actually bolts to our exhaust? Wish somone would of told me this when I asked..

[obdriver6]

The OBX are 4-1 and are design for high end power. The pacesetters are 4-2-1 and are used for low end torque. Both manifols (B18/B16) flow better but the B18 is more for low end torque since the runners are longer and the B16 is for high end power since the runners are shorter.

[stat1K]

^ truth, however the 4-1 is still my favorite, but mostly the just because pace setter is janky.

[gfrg88]

b16 is better. iirc, didn't loose tq, just gained a little throughout the powerband. I'd go with some kind of knock off from ebay, like obx.

Yes, iirc, 90 accord test pipe bolts right up. I'm 99% sure, I did it like 8 years ago...

[hondalude86]

I think it would also be a good idea to look into the jet performance chip too. I never really thought to much about them until I read an old thread where a mildly modded a20 made 140whp on the jet chip in an obd0 compy. Would be a cheaper/easier alternative to going obd1 setup with basic bolt ons. Rustlude87 dyno'd 122whp on a high mileage a20 with just a cam, basic exhaust, shaved head, and cai. Just to give you any idea...

[countryson]

sooo in my little world (correct me if im thinking wrong) the pacesetter header and the b18 intake are what id go for, torque makes the world go round. And the way ive understood it is the a2o is a torquery engine of the bunch right? Stupid question here, what cars had b18s? And jet has a chip for the little guy huh? i may look into that as well. EFI can only adjust for so much ya know

[gfrg88]

for price of jet chip, I'd honestly look into an SAFC, play with cam gear and timing a bit..

B18A/B came in integras. civics might have them if they're swapped. always look at stamps. any b series will work, except for GSRs (b18c1).

[countryson]

SAFC? How much advance do these cars like for a DD? a tooth or 2? Or would a adjustble gear be wiser? Where are said stamps on the engines?

[obdriver6]

An SAFC is devise that hacks your computer to "tune" your engine. DO NOT!!! skip a tooth on the cam gear, if you want to advance the cam timing buy an adjustable cam gear either used (from member or ebay) or new from bisimoto! The stamp is in the same place where the "A20XX" is stamped in our engines

[countryson]

i have n idea where its stamped on these engines either. I know nothing bout these cars, Im a v8 guy. I understand all the same principles apply, more as much air in and out as effcient as possible. But all every engine has different quirks. So ill assume skipping a tooth is not a fine enough adjustment. Where does an individual acquire a SAFC?

[obdriver6]

I know this isn't the A20 but its in the same place. You can get an SAFC (not the same as VAFC) online, on ebay, other forums, and sometime here.

[countryson]

aha! Good place for it.Thatll make life easier for me thank ya. So in theory with a cam, exhaust intake manifold and tune ill be sittin round 130-ish whp? or that on the optimistic side.

[RAZR]

aha! Good place for it.Thatll make life easier for me thank ya. So in theory with a cam, exhaust intake manifold and tune ill be sittin round 130-ish whp? or that on the optimistic side.

That's about right maybe a little more in my opinion

[vteckiller]

i like that "vtechkiller" is in here talking jazz like he knows his business on these cars... please see his other threads and then read his advice...

bisi being overrated statement after suggesting a 2.5"-3" exhaust... lawl.

sorry static ill change my name to vteckiller if it will make you happy, and i am sorry for talking like i know about " these cars " wont happen again static.