You'll be regretting it when you end up spending more on it in maintenance than what you paid for it lol
You'll be regretting it when you end up spending more on it in maintenance than what you paid for it lol
Originally Posted by Charlie
Eh, someone else already did and I have no other bills to pay so I'm good.Plus, it's worth every penny to me.
That's why I didn't go with a Benz when I bought my Bimmer. I kept hearing horror stories about how really expensive components would crap out to the tune of thousands. Also, every Benz gave me this creeping feeling that it was just waiting to break down and wipe out my wallet. I never got that from a BMW. I knew that whatever happened, the thing would always get me home.
With a Benz, you shouldn't ever have trouble getting replacement parts. The company keeps extensive parts inventories and keeps even more info on aftermarket suppliers. They even have a service to specially machine parts that aren't made any more. You can literally find parts for any Benz ever made. That's why you see so many perfectly restored Benz's. It doesn't take any skill, just deep pockets. If you can't find a part, call Stuttgart or wherever the heck they are.
Don't get cocky. You're in the big leagues now, driving a serious money machine. Plenty of doctors have sold those cars because they couldn't afford them. You can very easily get a five-figure bill for a basic service from a cut-rate shop. Even when I was making money, I wouldn't get the flagship models. They are too complicated to work and too expensive to fix.
Dr_Snooz
"I like to take hammers, and just break stuff, just break stuff." - Beavis
1989 Honda Accord LX-i Coupe, 240k miles, MT swap, rear disc swap
Shop manual downloads available here: CLICK TO VIEW
HON DUH that Acura beast coupe looked disturbedly like an old fox body Thunderbird.
You got a really nice car Charlie, hopefully it works out well for ya, youre in it right side up so far so at best you could flip it for profit at some point before youre upside down. Heh flip it..mmm...upside down, thats Merica
I see more junker Bimmers than Benz on Craigslist every day. BMW's don't age well, MB's definitely do. I never see old diesel BMW's with 500k+ either... I know what you mean, though; big bodies require deep pockets, but as much as I love MB and I love this 600, I don't think I'll have it for more than a year because I get bored of cars fast.
Not getting cocky, just my usual response to HONDUH's usual comments. We always give each other crap, nothing new. If I had to pick any Japanese luxury car, a second-generation Legend coupe with a 6-speed would be at the top of my list. He's got taste.
I'm already looking into purchasing another one or two of them; I found one down the street for sale for $2,000 from the original owner's daughter with 65k original miles and all documentation. Good deals for days. I was always told by my local shop to steer clear of the 600's but a V12 with this build quality is hard to step away from. My next beast should be a 8-Series V12 6-speed.
Yep pretty much sums it up.
Check this awesome Legend out: over 500k
Tho I miss my 3G...sometimes
I think you see more bmw on CL because sales were probably higher, and for sure plenty of 3 series beat to hell and 5 series automatic cars.
MB owners may not frequent CL , probably a lot of trade ins back to the dealer on those too, surplus may not make auctions and are liqudated by other means than other cars. Speculative guess...
^ Can't argue with that logic. BMW's are more common because they are cheaper, and honestly a different crowd of buyers. Mercedes are luxury-luxury, BMW's are sport-luxury. A 760iL will never compete with an S600, but I'd take an M3/M4 over a C63 any day. You are spot-on with MB owners trading in; Mercedes has one of the highest customer loyalty rates of any manufacturer. Once you get one, everything else seems cheap. They try hard to make you feel that way.
Is there any way to move this thread to off-topic without fucking it up? I mean, I don't own an Accord anymore so yeah...
Done
Interesting MB strives to meet the sport lux market, successfully I might add, yet BMW does not seem to give rats ass about the lux lux but then not many car makers do anymore imo.
Last edited by 2oodoor; 02-02-2014 at 03:12 PM.
Since it was only $2k, and if it runs decent, just drive it until it gives out. If it's an extensive repair, I'm sure a quick sale would net back most of the money you spent on it.
I'm not balling too hard yet myself so repair bills on a European luxo car scares me off, but only because I am very hard headed when it comes to parting with a vehicle.
I love the "old German cars fix themselves" thing. Since I've been driving her daily, the throttle bodies haven't been malfunctioning and the stereo started working.
Word. I love my volvo S70. Had it 3 years and all I do is change oil. Its a damn tank. Its great that I can build the accord and save miles on it cause I have a good DD
-Harvey
Volvo's are Swedish bro not Deutsch...and I totally agree, those Volvo's are freakin tanks, what year is it?
Bitch, don't be threajacking my update thread. loljk, I've seen a coworker of mine who "lives by" Volvo's that has had three (yes, three) of them towed from work over the past two weeks. Five-cylinder engines scare me, just like a three-cylinder Metro.
So, the throttle bodies on my 600 have been going in and out over the past few days so it has been sitting in my driveway. I want to get them rebuilt but I don't want to find out that they just need to be cleaned...
So, yeah.
Averaging 14.5 miles per gallon downhill to work. Averaging 9.5 miles per gallon uphill back home. $175 for an oil change - 10.5 quarts of full synthetic.
This car is fuuun.
I'm already halfway into looking to a) not own a vehicle at all or b) get something old, simple and reliable.
Yeah, you're gonna be strapped just keeping gas in it. Then the pneumatic suspension will go flat and you won't be able to drive it until you spend $5,000 to repair it. Or the steering box is going to puke out all its fluid on your driveway and demand $4,000 to stop. Or the A/C will go berzerk and start blowing hot air on everyone in the back seat and need $700 to fix. You'll be lucky if a loom doesn't melt and turn the car into an extravagantly expensive paperweight. You're sitting on a money bomb. I wouldn't touch a Benz with someone else's bank account. Unload that thing while it still runs. Trust me, it is going to stop in a shockingly expensive way soon. When it does, you'll be lucky to sell it for scrap metal.
I think you'd be happier with an older 3-series. I wouldn't trust the newer BMWs myself. Nothing past about 1995. The lower models tend to be more rationally engineered and don't require a post-grad in AI to fix. A 325 would be a solid car that would give you years of good service. A 330 would put a big grin on your face and not tear your balls off when you go to get repairs. Maybe a 525 if you just HAVE to be better than everyone else. It will still be German, of course, and give you that knot of constant money worry in the pit of your stomach. It will still randomly demand infusions of large bills, but it won't be devastating like what you have.
Dr_Snooz
"I like to take hammers, and just break stuff, just break stuff." - Beavis
1989 Honda Accord LX-i Coupe, 240k miles, MT swap, rear disc swap
Shop manual downloads available here: CLICK TO VIEW
http://repairpal.com/mercedes-benz/600sel
1993 Mercedes-Benz 600SEL Reviews and Owner Comments
Mercedes engine wiring harness rebuild
Expect any of these issues to be fantastically expensive. The evaporator costs $3,000. The MAF sensor costs $1,500. On a BMW, you can ignore a lot of stuff and be okay. On a Benz, ignoring a costly repair usually leads to a parabolic rise in costs as the failing system destroys other systems. For instance, the MAF sensor issue causes a rich condition. Expect that to wreck your cats. Those will probably be well over $1,000. And there are probably two. A radiator failure will cause overheating, risking a head gasket failure. And if I know German cars, you won't know the radiator failed until the car overheats. Etc. The wiring harness issue is especially scary.
Do not walk. RUN from that car!
Dr_Snooz
"I like to take hammers, and just break stuff, just break stuff." - Beavis
1989 Honda Accord LX-i Coupe, 240k miles, MT swap, rear disc swap
Shop manual downloads available here: CLICK TO VIEW
Pneumatic suspension is already out, car still drives perfectly fine. Steering box has been rebuilt by Mercedes. Air conditioning, and climate control for that matter, works flawlessly. All three wiring harnesses have been replaced with non-biodegradable versions. E30's aren't safe vehicles, I won't touch them. Safety is an issue for me. MAF's are in good shape as are the ETA's, both checked last night. Your second link is for a '93 model year so it might as well be for a different vehicle altogether. BMW's do not age well, especially compared to a Mercedes-Benz. I know what kind of vehicle I own. I know the common issues and which of them I have to deal with. I have had a multi-point inspection done at two European shops, both listing the same issues, and now all I need is one from Mercedes themselves. The car only has 90k miles and is in much better shape than most left on the road. It isn't all that bad of a car. It's a comfortable ride and it's faster than just about anything else on the road over 60mph. Most of all, it's safe. Look at the IIHS crash tests of a 1992 S-Class versus a 1992 Golf...it tears the Golf in half, long-ways.
$2,000 for the 400E. Probably $1,500 in repairs and maintenance over a year. Around $500 so far for the 600SEL to get it licensed and inspected. I'm hardly $4,000 into a car that I could sell as-is on Craigslist for $6,500 and get a quick sale. They're still $10,000 or more with more miles. If I spent another $2,000 on the car it would be perfect and a real road machine.
Bro sell that shit and get a MT UA6...
I cannot go back to front-wheel-drive...I just can't. I want a diesel W123 or W124.Bro sell that shit and get a MT UA6...
It has been posted on Craigslist.
If you have the German bug, then stay German by all means. Just stay away from the flagship models. They will hurt you bad.
Dr_Snooz
"I like to take hammers, and just break stuff, just break stuff." - Beavis
1989 Honda Accord LX-i Coupe, 240k miles, MT swap, rear disc swap
Shop manual downloads available here: CLICK TO VIEW
How old do I have to go to get a simple German car? Do they even exist?
Only simple German cars I know of are air-cooled VWs.
Darwin's rollin over in his coffin, the fittest are surviving much less often
They're definitely not luxurious or super fast (I saw an old ad once for a beetle that said 40hp at 40mpg). And I personally hate them for the lack of room/comfort they offer, but they are super easy to work on and do get great gas mileage. I'm half joking when I say VW anyway, because I don't really think that would be something you would want. Although they're simple, they're like every other German car I've dealt with that was more than 15 years old, they constantly require work. What are your thoughts on BMW? I thought I read some negative thoughts on those in this thread somewhere, but I could be mistaken. My parents have owned 4 BMWs, 1 Mercedes, and my dad has a 67 VW Beetle/Baja. The BMWs never had major issues, I think the most expensive thing they did to it was replace a convertible roof, the transmission went out on the Benz and holy shit I could have bought 3 really nice cars for that price. My dad's VW was rebuilt (complete tear down) in 98 and it's still going strong, though he constantly has to adjust carbs or some other stupid little maintenance. It does break down, don't get me wrong, but 16 years as a DD on the same rebuild is pretty awesome in my book.
Last edited by LewZur; 03-20-2014 at 07:34 AM.
Darwin's rollin over in his coffin, the fittest are surviving much less often
Bro I'd stay away from German cars until you're 30 lol
Get a:
AT or MT Legend
MT RSX
AT or MT TSX (06+)
MT TL Type S for second gen or AT or MT TL for third gen
CL Type S MT second gen
I wanted an e30 or e46 but just reading about maintenance and cost for OEM parts on forums I was like
Hondas and Acuras make me feel like
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