MoNstER A20 All MoTOR !!

[247shuer247]

Ok guys So i have been Working non stop on my hatchie and have become so inspired with everyones mods and unique ideas on here so first of all thank you to everyone for the inspiration and thank you in advance to whoever posts on this thread . sorry in advance if i babble

so for starters i have a 1986 accord hatchback.

HERES WHAT I HAVE DONE TO DATE ....

Fixed all the mechanical parts the car is running great nice and strong
i replaced the entire cooling system clutch changed belts everything that would wear with age. my ac and power steering were already failing so i removed those and also the cruise control which freed up a bit of my engine bay

my next project was the body work getting rid of all of the dings and scratches not to many was able to get the body looking nice with very little bondo
looking on prelude power i found that alot of the 2nd gen guys were modifying there bumber to fit the 3rd gen. and i remeber that we could fit 2nd gen prelude bumpers with some modsso i took on the task of modifying the front bumber to fit the 3rd gen as far as i know mine is the only one with a 3rd gen bumper

pics will be up soon


as of now the car has been primered I am holding off on the paint job until i get some work done on my engine heres where you guys come in i need your help.

I plan on rebuilding the engine not to many problems now just want a reliable engine... once the engine is out i will spray the engine bay and finish the paint..

heres my plans for the engine this is not set in stone and any advice would be appreciated


*FULL ENGINE REBUILD
port and polish the whole thing

*B16 INTAKE MANIFOLD AND THROTTLE BODY thinking after market on this maybe skunk2 ? would it make a difference?

* HEADERS im thinking obx because i have heard bad things about pacesetter. and ss and dc headers are really hard to find .

*Short Ram Intake weapon R heard alot of good things, can anyone say different maybe k&n

*Upraged ignition ??? i have no idea about this one

*4TH GEN INJECTORS most likely oem

*ALUMINUM FLYWHEEL again no idea any info would be appreciated

*NGK SPARK PLUGS AND WIRES pretty much

*BIGGER PISTONS ... would this make a difference? if so what size is good?

*Pelude A2k5 tranny

* Convert to obd-1

*Ehaust not to sure here ive seen that obx has an exhaust kit
but im a little skeptical and have no idea for a muffler

*Stage 2 cams and Gears thinkin colt where can i get them?

*Upgraded rods ? No idea where to start ....

like i said This is not set in stone open to any advice whether its negative or positive im just trying to get it right the first time ....

[88lxi-shortram]

obx utilizes the ss design. lost posted about that somewhere sometime. if your going all motor and obd1 you should look into either fabricating some itbs or buying a set. youll be able to tune easily so why not go all out? how much power are you looking to put out?

[247shuer247]

I was thinking that but i have no idea how much that would cost or if they would need to be custom made

im shooting for something like 200 but i would be happy as fuck with like 160
i dont think thats to farfetched

yeah i do remeber pete posting that

[nswst8]

I have a brand spanking new DC sport header, always entertaining offers.

[MessyHonda]

I have a skunk 2 manifold already drilled to fit

[247shuer247]

I have a skunk 2 manifold already drilled to fit

with or without the throttle body ?

[247shuer247]

I have a brand spanking new DC sport header, always entertaining offers.

really brand new ??

umm idk how much would it be just to ship to california ?

[MessyHonda]

with or without the throttle body ?

i can throw in a GSR throttle body if i can find it

[88lxi-shortram]

160 is easily doable without bottom end work. Build.the head,get a good cam,headers and an intake manifold and im sure you could get close to that.

[247shuer247]

i can throw in a GSR throttle body if i can find it

How much do you want for it bro ??

[247shuer247]

160 is easily doable without bottom end work. Build.the head,get a good cam,headers and an tintake manifold and im sure you could get close to that.

Just curious what can be done to the bottom end ??
And how much horsepower could be gained by doing that ?

[gfrg88]

bottom end. LS rods with some high comp pistons.. 12:1 if you're going all motor

something like THIS

[lostforawhile]

following this thread,


your only real choice on a header thats stainless is the OBX now or that DC if you can get it. I got one of the last S&S ones, the OBX is all right but may need some of the welds redone from what I've seen.

[247shuer247]

bottom end. LS rods with some high comp pistons.. 12:1 if you're going all motor

something like THIS

Does that one fit the a20 and yes I plan on staying all motor
Trying to bring n/a back

[lostforawhile]

Does that one fit the a20 and yes I plan on staying all motor
Trying to bring n/a back

same here all N/A old school

[obd0driver]

Yes LS rods and pistons will fit. You'll have bore the block to 83mm to get them to fit and get custom pistons made to match(thank messy for that info). Also your going n/a you may want to look in to ITB's you'll make power with them then a b16 intake manny. However you would have make your own ITB's. You also better get ready to run the bottle. A 75 shot should do the trick. A 5 angle valve job. Maybe even bigger valves. All this would be a nice start and get too your 200hp mark and maybe more.

[gfrg88]

Yes LS rods and pistons will fit. You'll have bore the block to 83mm to get them to fit and get custom pistons made to match(thank messy for that info). Also your going n/a you may want to look in to ITB's you'll make power with them then a b16 intake manny. However you would have make your own ITB's. You also better get ready to run the bottle. A 75 shot should do the trick. A 5 angle valve job. Maybe even bigger valves. All this would be a nice start and get too your 200hp mark and maybe more.

Don't have to get customs pistons.. Just get some off the shelf pistons with the bore you want. There's plenty of pistons out there in 83mm and 84mm that you can buy right off the shelf. Just make sure rods are LS. I believe all aftermarket pistons; itr, ctr, gsr, etc; will all fit aftermarket LS rods... This info has been around for YEARS. It's just recently that people have started using B series internals more often.. Check out the FAQ section...


In theory, you can use b16/b18 ITBs. I think 200 is pretty achievable without spray... Read Rich's(rjudgey) threads/post on head work, he's a god when it comes to that! I think it's all gonna come down to headwork to reach that power.. BIG valves, big cam, nice porting, etc...

[knifemind]

However you would have make your own ITB's.

http://www.extrudabody.com/servlet/t...0-Motor/Detail

[obd0driver]

Don't have to get customs pistons.. Just get some off the shelf pistons with the bore you want. There's plenty of pistons out there in 83mm and 84mm that you can buy right off the shelf. Just make sure rods are LS. I believe all aftermarket pistons; itr, ctr, gsr, etc; will all fit aftermarket LS rods... This info has been around for YEARS. It's just recently that people have started using B series internals more often.. Check out the FAQ section...

12:1 comp pisrons at a 83mm isn't some the u can just get "off the shelf". Most ls pistons are gonna be 10:1 with a 81mm or 84mm bore. The size needed is 82:7xmm.... so I would have to ask why would you run 84mm over and weaken your sleeves more then needed.

[Vanilla Sky]

Except we don't have sleeved blocks.

Service limit for these blocks according to the factory manual I just checked is 30 over, which would be close to a, 83mm piston. That's as large as I would go.

Diamond can make pistons to order. They have a file on hand for our engine, too. Give them a call.

[247shuer247]

So basically 12.1 83 mm with ls rods and the head bored to the same is crucial
Is diamond pricey with the pistons??

And lost I agree n/a all the way

And as for itb I'm gonna have to do some serious research on them first lol

[247shuer247]

Don't have to get customs pistons.. Just get some off the shelf pistons with the bore you want. There's plenty of pistons out there in 83mm and 84mm that you can buy right off the shelf. Just make sure rods are LS. I believe all aftermarket pistons; itr, ctr, gsr, etc; will all fit aftermarket LS rods... This info has been around for YEARS. It's just recently that people have started using B series internals more often.. Check out the FAQ section...


In theory, you can use b16/b18 ITBs. I think 200 is pretty achievable without spray... Read Rich's(rjudgey) threads/post on head work, he's a god when it comes to that! I think it's all gonna come down to headwork to reach that power.. BIG valves, big cam, nice porting, etc...

It's funny because I just recently found his thread and he is god at this lol

[247shuer247]

Yes LS rods and pistons will fit. You'll have bore the block to 83mm to get them to fit and get custom pistons made to match(thank messy for that info). Also your going n/a you may want to look in to ITB's you'll make power with them then a b16 intake manny. However you would have make your own ITB's. You also better get ready to run the bottle. A 75 shot should do the trick. A 5 angle valve job. Maybe even bigger valves. All this would be a nice start and get too your 200hp mark and maybe more.

Me is confused what do you mean by run the bottle what 75 shot ?

[ShyBoyCA6]

Nice can't wait for the outcome of this engine. im doing something similar but leaving room for more power. im trying to go for 140-160hp n/a for now, hope all goes well for your build. i suggest going obd1 for tuning.

[lostforawhile]

Nice can't wait for the outcome of this engine. im doing something similar but leaving room for more power. im trying to go for 140-160hp n/a for now, hope all goes well for your build. i suggest going obd1 for tuning.

I think he's going carb