FEELER: Mosselman Turbo Manifold Group Buy

[knifemind]

I'm in 100%. Already have funds reserved.

[Vanilla Sky]

Excellent.

[Tdurr]

Im 100% also. Why not have two turbo cars??

[Vanilla Sky]

Because race car.

[2oodoor]

In

[bscanlan]

I am afraid I am out all together. Your numbers look to be getting good, so hopefully I don't mess up pricing.

[Deathconfess]

I contacted mosselman and they quoted me 210 euros shipped, to my doorstep here in texas. Which in my eyes isn't bad at all. They also charge a 3% handling fee if you pay using paypal, no charge if paid via wire transfer.

[bscanlan]

I am going to be out for this one. I hope this does not mess up the numbers needed for the price, it looked as though you were getting a good volume.

[Vanilla Sky]

At 10 manifolds, we are looking at around 170 Euros shipped each, plus shipping from me. It should save you $50 or so by the time all is said and done.

[obd0driver]

I'm in especially for $221 shipped

[Vanilla Sky]

There will still be a fee to ship it from me to you. That's the biggest reason I'm pushing for another 9 members to join the buy. 20 manifolds puts us just under 150 Euros plus US shipping per manifold.

[obdriver6]

I'm not 100% sure but I might pick one up.

[rjudgey]

If you include me can they post to UK instead and charge me the shipping separately to you guys?

[Vanilla Sky]

Email dispatched. I don't expect to find out for a day or two.

[gp02a0083]

ill seee what happens after tax returns, id like to get one for my DD and lightly boost it to around 8 lbs ( whole car has less than 85K still). My one thought with looking at the engine bay and the manifold is the re routing of the coolant lines , but it looks like you would have to remove the fan or use a civic rad? im still 50/50 on this , if they extended the turbo flange and gave it more of a downward angle i would think it would fit better?

Edit: nvm , looked at the brochure, i would be highly intrested and they would have my money ASAP if they produced a "kit" to go obd-0 turbo like the car in the picture ad. Only thing i question is why the hell didnt they remove the stock air intake pipe, didnt look connected

[obd0driver]

it may have been a return air setup with no inter cooler. company's did that a lot back then. :/ idk... but i was ask myself the same thing.

ill seee what happens after tax returns, id like to get one for my DD and lightly boost it to around 8 lbs ( whole car has less than 85K still). My one thought with looking at the engine bay and the manifold is the re routing of the coolant lines , but it looks like you would have to remove the fan or use a civic rad? im still 50/50 on this , if they extended the turbo flange and gave it more of a downward angle i would think it would fit better?

Edit: nvm , looked at the brochure, i would be highly intrested and they would have my money ASAP if they produced a "kit" to go obd-0 turbo like the car in the picture ad. Only thing i question is why the hell didnt they remove the stock air intake pipe, didnt look connected

[Vanilla Sky]

The kit they sold looks to be a very compromised system. It needs a full overhaul to be a decent performance system. In looking at parts, it's going to cost close over $2000 to put a kit together that I trust to run correctly. It won't be emissions compliant, and it won't be running a Honda ECU because it's not as capable as MS3 is.

[89T]

The kit they sold looks to be a very compromised system. It needs a full overhaul to be a decent performance system. In looking at parts, it's going to cost close over $2000 to put a kit together that I trust to run correctly. It won't be emissions compliant, and it won't be running a Honda ECU because it's not as capable as MS3 is.

What does the ms3 do that the Honda ecu can't? Please elaborate.what other parts are you thinking at the 2k price?

[gfrg88]

My thoughts exactly? I don't see what a simple chipped ecu, and a good program can't do that MS does? It's probably best for others that dont get the support hondas do... Just saying. Maybe I'm being a little naive in the tuning world, and not looking outside Honda

[Vanilla Sky]

Water injection, autotuning, and I'm familiar with it.

Oh, and of course, crank triggered individual coils. Lots of stuff like that is native to MS.

[89T]

Water injection, autotuning, and I'm familiar with it.

Oh, and of course, crank triggered individual coils. Lots of stuff like that is native to MS.

What's the price? I hope you are not taking about the $1100 unit.
The thing to remember is most people on this board won't ever use all the bells and whistles. Does the kit come with all the sensors needed for the kit?

[obd0driver]

Most chipping programs you can add those thing to the ecucrome, neptune, Hondata

[Tdurr]

sooo who do I pay? I have my monies atm.

[cygnus x-1]

My thoughts exactly? I don't see what a simple chipped ecu, and a good program can't do that MS does? It's probably best for others that dont get the support hondas do... Just saying. Maybe I'm being a little naive in the tuning world, and not looking outside Honda

The major advantage of MS is that it can run non-Honda engines, anywhere from tiny single cylinders up to V12s. As far as running Honda engines, The Honda ECUs are tailored for them so they have an advantage there as far as being a little easier to setup with all the sensors. Having to deal with EEPROMs and/or emulators is so 1992, and the Honda tuning software costs more money so those are some downsides. As far as overall cost (hardware + software), you can really only compare them on a case by case basis because there are just too many variables.

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[89T]

sooo who do I pay? I have my monies atm.

You can give it all to me. I won't complain. Lol!