Ap1 s2000 digital guage cluster.

[Legend_master]

I think a18ahas done it, but I can't remember the thread he spoke about it in.

[Dr_Snooz]

Would it be possible to use the pulser in the speedo for that?

[lostforawhile]

Would it be possible to use the pulser in the speedo for that?

I thought of that, but if there is a VSS that will fit the transmission, that eliminates the speedometer cable completely, if not a junk speedo could just be put in a box behind the dash. modern aftermarket speedos can be calibrated to anything, it's just a theory right now as I dont have the 700 dollars for the tach,speedometer, fuel leve,l temp, and oil pressure gauges , not including the electronic sender I would have to use to make ii be able to read fuel level with this gas tank. The gauges would fit though and they are gorgeous gauges

[2ndGenGuy]

I thought people had already done this, and used a 4g VSS and exchanged some parts with the speedo drive gear on the 3g...

[lostforawhile]

I thought people had already done this, and used a 4g VSS and exchanged some parts with the speedo drive gear on the 3g...

thats what Im trying to find, it doesnt matter if the gear ratio is right on the vss as you calibrate an electronic speedo anyway, i just need to find a vss amplifier module to change the output to a square wave for the voice module input, it't looking more and more like the best solution is a speedometer head in a box and to move the cable, the cruise doesnt care if it's right eithier, it just samples the number of pulses when you push the button, and compares that to control speed. It has no idea of your actual speed

[Legend_master]

thats what Im trying to find, it doesnt matter if the gear ratio is right on the vss as you calibrate an electronic speedo anyway, i just need to find a vss amplifier module to change the output to a square wave for the voice module input, it't looking more and more like the best solution is a speedometer head in a box and to move the cable, the cruise doesnt care if it's right eithier, it just samples the number of pulses when you push the button, and compares that to control speed. It has no idea of your actual speed

Or you could just use the speedhealer I have posted in this thread.

[lostforawhile]

well I wouldnt need the speed healer, the speedo I'm looking at can be calibrated to any vss, it's finding a vss that will fit the tranny drive gear, just doing my research in case I can afford the gauges i want eventually, do you know what the output signal is on these, is it a rotating magnet in the VSS

[Legend_master]

well I wouldnt need the speed healer, the speedo I'm looking at can be calibrated to any vss, it's finding a vss that will fit the tranny drive gear, just doing my research in case I can afford the gauges i want eventually, do you know what the output signal is on these, is it a rotating magnet in the VSS

No clue on how it does it, but from what has been stated the 4g vss works.

[Rendon LX-i]

back to the subject LOL

[lostforawhile]

back to the subject LOL

Ok, just for the record the vss from 90 and up puts out a signal that goes from 0 to 5 volts, the speedometer in our cars has a magnet that passes a reed switch, and its a ground pulse, im not sure what type of input the digital dash needs, but it will be interesting to see, did the digital dash have a vss that attached to the tranny? I know a standard vss signal could be changed to a grounding signal with a solid state relay, which is just a neatly packaged transistor circuit

[Legend_master]

The VSS sensor has 3 wires. Power (12V), Ground, and signal output. Power/Ground are obvious. The signal out put goes out to the VSS input on the cluster, VSS input on cruise control, and VSS input at the ECU. I believe a18a installed a 4th gen speedometer in the 3rd gen cluster, and used a 4th gen VSS sensor.

[lostforawhile]

The VSS sensor has 3 wires. Power (12V), Ground, and signal output. Power/Ground are obvious. The signal out put goes out to the VSS input on the cluster, VSS input on cruise control, and VSS input at the ECU. I believe a18a installed a 4th gen speedometer in the 3rd gen cluster, and used a 4th gen VSS sensor.

So the digital dash requires a 5 volt in pulse like a late model honda? The usdm 3rd generation is a ground pulse instead of five volt like everything else, I can't remember if. The fi cars convert it to 5 volts or just use the grounding pulse from the speedometer head, I know the cruise uses it directly from the speedometer head,through a diode

[Legend_master]

So the digital dash requires a 5 volt in pulse like a late model honda? The usdm 3rd generation is a ground pulse instead of five volt like everything else, I can't remember if. The fi cars convert it to 5 volts or just use the grounding pulse from the speedometer head, I know the cruise uses it directly from the speedometer head,through a diode

I'm not sure how it works, but the speed healer goes in between the cluster and the vss sensor.

[lostforawhile]

I'm not sure how it works, but the speed healer goes in between the cluster and the vss sensor.

right,it probably reads a standard vss signal which is 5 volts logic voltage, but it probably puts out the same thing, if the digital cluster requires a grounding pulse you will have to convert the output of the speed healer to a grounding pulse, instead of a 5 volt pulse, this is easy to do with a solid state relay, which switches it's output through a transistor. Ill see if I can read up on the speed healer later, I believe the schematics for the digital dash are on the non usdm service manual,on the wiki

[Legend_master]

Not sure how I'm going to do the a-plug yet, but for your viewing pleasure.

[lostforawhile]

do you have a picture of the back of it? the diagram shows a mechanical sensor and speed pulser for the digital dash, are you sure it doesnt read off the cable? it's basically showing the vss as being in the cluster itself

[Legend_master]

do you have a picture of the back of it? the diagram shows a mechanical sensor and speed pulser for the digital dash, are you sure it doesnt read off the cable? it's basically showing the vss as being in the cluster itself

You know this is from a Honda s2000? This is not the original digital cluster? The VSS is located on the transmission, and the input goes to the speedhealer, then to the VSS input on the cluster. I'm sure there is something going on in the cluster to determine the speed output.

[2oodoor]

you're the best, that is coming along good!

[lostforawhile]

You know this is from a Honda s2000? This is not the original digital cluster? The VSS is located on the transmission, and the input goes to the speedhealer, then to the VSS input on the cluster. I'm sure there is something going on in the cluster to determine the speed output.

thats right DUH i must have hit my head harder then i thought

[A18A]

sheeeeeit man that looks real cool!

[lostforawhile]

for some reason I got it in my head that he was talking about the original one lol, and I've been looking up wiring diagrams, maby they need to MRI my head too, on this note how are you going to do the fuel level sender? i think these have some oddball resistance range

[Legend_master]

you're the best, that is coming along good!

Thanks!

sheeeeeit man that looks real cool!

Can't wait till its done lol.

for some reason I got it in my head that he was talking about the original one lol, and I've been looking up wiring diagrams, maby they need to MRI my head too, on this note how are you going to do the fuel level sender? i think these have some oddball resistance range

Its all good, but you had me confused there for a minute lol. I'm gonna hook it up strait, then see how it works. I read some guy with a DA Integra used a resistor to fix the problem.

[lostforawhile]

it's 6-100 ohm.

[lostforawhile]

here is someone who reprograms the cluster, apparently they dont do so well with early type senders, that being anything before 2000 MarkLamond.co.uk - S2000 Cluster - Fuel Sender Modification

[Legend_master]

Can't figure out a way to make this plug and play.

This is the A-plug