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I think it's somewhat beyond that now. With the exception of Obama's first election, I can't think of any recent presidential election where either candidate genuinely excited his supposed constituency. In the last election, we were forced to choose between a war criminal and a vulture capitalist. The war criminal won a Nobel Peace Prize and the vulture capitalist promised that he would restore jobs. It's like living in a Salvador Dali painting.
Between vulture capitalist and war criminal, I would have taken vulture capitalist. Although I vote Libertarian whenever I can.



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Most everyone who still bothers to vote holds their nose and repeats "lesser of two evils" while doing so. There's plenty of evidence to suggest that there is pervasive fraud in our elections. When these guys get in office, they consistently implement decisions that have no rational justification. They serve the bankers and CEOs who install them.
Serving those who put you into office (and yourself) is rational, is it not? No, I find (most) politicians quite predictable. They will screw anyone and anything to get what they want and keep themselves in power. Sadly this seems to be getting worse all the time.



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Here's my bottom line. We live in a country where the economy is being pillaged by insiders. Surveillance is ubiquitous. Police stomp around with assault rifles, abusing citizens at will. We had a martial law event in Boston where civil liberties were suspended and people who violated the daytime curfew were menaced by marauding police, feds and military. Our military is rampaging through the world, waging wars at will, committing war crimes and bombing wherever and whomever it pleases. We are fed a steady diet of propaganda through every TV show, radio show, newspaper and magazine to the point that people have lost all touch with reality. We have a sprawling prison system with far and away the largest number of inmates in the world. Our political leaders break laws, treaties and international agreements with impunity. Dissidents like Bradley Manning and Aaron Swartz are jailed and/or tortured and/or killed. These are the hallmarks of every authoritarian, totalitarian and fascist regime we've ever seen. You are no longer allowed to argue that's it's different when it isn't.
So I am no longer allowed to present my case because it's just clearly wrong? Are you repealing the right to free speech? Dang, I should have invoked Godwin's law sooner.



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You are not allowed to say "it won't happen here" when it is happening here.
You're putting words in my mouth. Never have I said or implied "it won't happen here" or "it isn't happening here".


Look, if it wasn't obvious I've sort of been playing devil's advocate here and I do see what you're getting at. To use the vernacular, shit is fucked up. I would disagree about the severity of some things, but for sure we definitely have issues. My biggest worry at the moment is the economy and our enormous debt.



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If you choose to resist, I don't care what you do, just do something. Even if it's simply standing on a corner with a sign reading "the end is near."

Edit: I should, however, say that I'm a pacifist and reject violent solutions.
Hopefully people will come up with something more constructive than standing on the corner proclaiming the end is near. At the very least go stand in front of the Whitehouse or the Capitol building. And change your sign to "The end is near, for politicians".

Violence is of course a last resort. But if it really came down to that, I think self preservation would kick in.


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