Coil Covers How low?

**Scotts88WhiteLX-i** · 10-31-2002, 06:08 PM

Jim or anyone

I heard you can lower your car 1.5 with coilcovers without needing lowering springs or new struts. I wanted to know if this is true?

**Scotts88WhiteLX-i** · 10-31-2002, 06:15 PM

oh yea an also if you can lower it without anything else will your tires wear unevenly?

**86AccordLxi** · 10-31-2002, 08:41 PM

Where in Eugene are you at ?!?! I'm at UO.

Alex

**Grant2k** · 11-01-2002, 06:35 AM

i think you mean coilovers, and i have do remember seeing posts for kits that use your stock springs. you know what, let's just wait for jim.

**Scotts88WhiteLX-i** · 11-01-2002, 11:13 AM

Im in the Santa Clara area.

**jteuton** · 11-01-2002, 11:24 AM

There would be no way possible unless you did some kind of modification like cutting the spring. You see coilovers come with shorter springs and the perch that spins around the tube raises or lowers your vehicle by adjusting overall height from the base plate on the strut. If you have factory struts and springs.....even with the coilover adjusted all the way down you would still sit at factory height.....You could probably raise it but not lower it. So you can get away with cut springs and factory struts but how can we say.....bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump

**KaMiKaZeE** · 11-01-2002, 11:54 AM

Definitley go with stiffer springs. And some coil-overs go quite low, like touch the ground low, but anything past about 2" drop will probably require some shims or something to correct camber.

**jteuton** · 11-01-2002, 12:12 PM

What you actually need is shorter springs that are stiiffer than stock and very good dampers

**Grant2k** · 11-01-2002, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by jteuton
What you actually need is shorter springs that are stiiffer than stock and very good dampers

that is true but i think he is looking for a way around that. cutting the springs is all i can think of.

**Jims 86LXI HB** · 11-02-2002, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by Scotts88WhiteLX-i
Jim or anyone I heard you can lower your car 1.5 with coilcovers without needing lowering springs or new struts. I wanted to know if this is true?

OpmMotorSports does offer generic coilover kit's that you add 2.25" DIAMETER spirngs to. But 3rd gen rear springs are not that size, they are 3" diameter. And if you lower the car and you do nothing to stiffen the springs or struts, your allot more likely to bottom out the car and the struts and blow them in a hurry.
If you got their coilover kit and a pair of 2.25" diameter rear springs, your cost would be $190, but I don't recommend that for the reason's I already gave.

You'd be better off getting a set of drop zone coilovers for around $100, get a pair of springs from ground control (250lbs spring rate) for $50 to replace the front set that come with the drop zones as they are WAY! to stiff. And a pair of Koni front struts for $212 and a pair of Tokico sturts for the rear $110.
$472 total.

**Scotts88WhiteLX-i** · 11-02-2002, 10:14 AM

ok thanks

**bobafett** · 11-02-2002, 11:06 AM

hey jim, that post just confused me, so could i get some assistance? i like my setup: 2 rear tokicos, 2 front konis, and the h&r springs... BUT, i would like to get coilovers, and lower the car some more, what would i need to buy, and what could i keep?

i am not talking about touch the ground low, i just hate my still 4" of wheelgap in the front, and 1" in the back (exxagerated i know)

**Jims 86LXI HB** · 11-02-2002, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by bobafett
hey jim, that post just confused me, so could i get some assistance? i like my setup: 2 rear tokicos, 2 front konis, and the h&r springs... BUT, i would like to get coilovers, and lower the car some more, what would i need to buy, and what could i keep?

i am not talking about touch the ground low, i just hate my still 4" of wheelgap in the front, and 1" in the back (exxagerated i know)

Their's 2 way's to do something, new springs or,.....

If you wanted to you could get just a front pair of those coilover's from opm and use your front H&R's springs and dial in the front drop that please's you. Cost would be $70. But I don't know if I'd trust the H&R's being used in such a way. It's one thing when their used on a car at normal height (1.5" drop). But when you dial in some additional drop I would not be comfortable about them haveing enough stiffness to keep you off the bump stops if you were braking and hit a bump. I'd recommend that you grab a pair of slightly stiffer front springs from ground-control for $100 and use them instead in the front. You would not want to go to stiff or you'll mess up your front to rear balance. The best thing I could recommned, that would give you what you want, at a price, would be ground-control coilovers. Keep in mind that if you did that, you'd be able to sell your H&R's on the board pretty darn quick.

(Oh, one more thing. You could also grab a set of the drop zone coilover's and use them in the front. That kit comes with 2 450lbs springs and 2 350lbs springs. The problem I have is that 350lbs in the front and only 165(stock rear H&R's) is not a good idea at all for handling. And 450lbs front and 350lbs rear should NOT be done even with Koni's, you will have how they ride, Koni's are not strong enough for a 450lbs spring.)

So, choose from below
1. front coilover w/stock springs stock rear set-up $70
2. front coilover w/stiffer front springs stock rear set-up $170
3. dropzone front coilover w/350lbs front springs stock rear set-up $129
4. dropzone front coilover w/350lbs front spring new rear springs from GC 250lbs $229
5. Ground-control coilovers $339

What would I do, either option 2 or 5. I would pay the extra $110 for the GC's over option 4 because of how good the GC reputation is, not everyone may value that for $110 and that's cool to.