Lol. Hopefully they'll get you up and running
Lol. Hopefully they'll get you up and running
Sad part is I wint have a day off until next Monday.
Originally posted by ShiRen:
Nice car or not, nobody likes losing a race to an old 4 door Honda.
That sucks well to be continued
Ok so... using the old coil wires worked BUT, its firing but I'm pretty sure it's out of time cause it is spitting hard and will die unless I hold the throttle.
Got fuel and spark now though, so progress.
Originally posted by ShiRen:
Nice car or not, nobody likes losing a race to an old 4 door Honda.
coil on plug are a little hard to trouble shoot for like you said hard to tell whats firing when with out a scope on each leg.
1988 Lxi owner since August 1995
336k miles running strong!
Now running E85.
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I'm hoping maybe just need to readjust the vr sensor. Followed the install directions to the T, but I'll have to recheck sensor alignment. Wheel is set 9 teeth counterclockwise from missing tooth being at sensor. At tdc, missing tooth is pointed down.
Originally posted by ShiRen:
Nice car or not, nobody likes losing a race to an old 4 door Honda.
If none of the above work ground that shielded wire
I did, it actually did help some.
Originally posted by ShiRen:
Nice car or not, nobody likes losing a race to an old 4 door Honda.
1988 Lxi owner since August 1995
336k miles running strong!
Now running E85.
Oldblueaccord <<< MY YOUTUBE PAGE!
Well I think I figured it out and it boils down to me overthinking things...
I was trying to use the old firing order for the distributor... 1342, with the new coilpack. But, it hit me today... I shouldn't be doing that. The new coil will just literally go 1234 in relation to where those are on the coil itself.
I hooked the distributor back up cause I have to get to work and when I went to start it, was spitting and sputtering just like it did the other day with the edis hooked up. I had crossed two plug wires. That's when above hit me.
Originally posted by ShiRen:
Nice car or not, nobody likes losing a race to an old 4 door Honda.
Got it to run but it's kind of rough. Spits when it first starts. Wont idle on it's own and when it dies it does a hellacious backfire.
Originally posted by ShiRen:
Nice car or not, nobody likes losing a race to an old 4 door Honda.
After digging, have figured out that my timing is a degree out.
Pretty much explains everything.
Originally posted by ShiRen:
Nice car or not, nobody likes losing a race to an old 4 door Honda.
Mechanical or spark timing? Just curious... Is the spark timing set by a laptop with that thing?
mechanical timing is off a hair. Thought I had it set when the engine was out but tightening the tensioner must've shifted it slightly. Or, belt stretched when I was taking crank pulley off that first time and it was a pain in the ass. Explains why I had to turn distributor a bit to smooth out idle. Guess I should've realized it then but was too worried about getting it running cause I needed it for work at the time.
Yea, you can alter the timing with a laptop.
Originally posted by ShiRen:
Nice car or not, nobody likes losing a race to an old 4 door Honda.
Cam is set to perfect tdc in the following pictures.
This is the timing mark on my flywheel.
This is what the pointer is at. You can just see the two marks which is why I posted 1st pic so you know what they look like.
It looks like it is pointing in the middle of the two lines so it is in fact off just slightly.
Now my question is... and I know on a stock flywheel you would us the "T" as your set line. This however, is not a stock flywheel so is the "T" on this one implying that the line right next to it is "time"? If it were the engine running time, it wouldn't be that close to the set mark.
Originally posted by ShiRen:
Nice car or not, nobody likes losing a race to an old 4 door Honda.
1988 Lxi owner since August 1995
336k miles running strong!
Now running E85.
Oldblueaccord <<< MY YOUTUBE PAGE!
I did make sure it's for sure at tdc, pulled plug, shone light in, stuck a small rod in there to feel piston moving, etc etc
flywheel is an Unorthadox racing lightweight.
I cant find any documentation for it even on google. Found stuff for underdrive pulleys by them but nothing for the flywheel.
Originally posted by ShiRen:
Nice car or not, nobody likes losing a race to an old 4 door Honda.
if the piston is at tdc and those lines dont match up then they aren't in the right place, you cant even use them for your spark timing. pop the valve cover off and look at the cam pulley
Well technically the line might not be. If you check TDC like mentioned above then you remark the flywheel.
I always check every motor I mess with. Most domestics the stock style balancer is rubber and slips over time and the mark will be off from TDC.
Moral of the story CHECK EVERYTHING.
Last edited by Oldblueaccord; 07-11-2019 at 03:35 PM.
1988 Lxi owner since August 1995
336k miles running strong!
Now running E85.
Oldblueaccord <<< MY YOUTUBE PAGE!
So, after finally finding some info on the flywheel, it looks like I'm supposed to use the line next to the T as my base timing when replacing the timing belt. When I had the engine out and changed the belt, I used the actual "T" as the mark since that's what we're supposed to do, but didn't take into consideration that the flywheel isn't stock. In the end, I set myself a tooth off from the get go. Explains why it backfires like hell on off throttle conditions and is cranky sometimes when starting. I just figured it was an after effect of the carbs. Live and learn I suppose.
Next day off I'll reset the timing and since I have a fresh belt on hand, go ahead an swap a new belt on. After that, I go on vacation to my parents in Texas. Should be a fun drive. I did drive it to Knoxville as a long distance test which is about 1 1/2 hours from me and she did great there and back so hopefully TX will be fine. Averaged about 22 mpg which is better than I expected, lol.
I'll update this thread after vacation or if I get my dad to help me with it whilst I'm there.
Originally posted by ShiRen:
Nice car or not, nobody likes losing a race to an old 4 door Honda.
Alright, we're back...
Car made it like a champ to Texas and back. 1900 miles both ways. Only issue I had was one of my exhaust plugs started to back out and was making a hell of a racket. Actually got great gas mileage.. averaged out to around 28mpg. With how this car is modified, I was quite impressed. But, interstate driving isn't too hard on mpg so there's that.
Going to swap on a new timing belt tomorrow and reset the timing to where it should be since I'm a degree off. Water pump needs to be swapped out as well so going to go ahead and do that. It's had a bent shaft for a while now but somehow never leaked.
After that, we'll go from there and see if I can get this thing running properly.
Originally posted by ShiRen:
Nice car or not, nobody likes losing a race to an old 4 door Honda.
New belt on, she is timed perfectly. Hit it with a light and everything.
Runs much better and is smoother on idle. Still backfires like a slut when letting off throttle, but that's dcoe life I suppose.
Originally posted by ShiRen:
Nice car or not, nobody likes losing a race to an old 4 door Honda.
Do you have a wideband sensor on there?
I wish, but with the header the way it is, I'd have to get a bung welded in at the collector to get a good reading.
Originally posted by ShiRen:
Nice car or not, nobody likes losing a race to an old 4 door Honda.
1988 Lxi owner since August 1995
336k miles running strong!
Now running E85.
Oldblueaccord <<< MY YOUTUBE PAGE!
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