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    I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    I just bought an Ultra Start 2256M for my Accord (coupe), it’s made for manual transmission, so it shouldn’t be an issue. I was gonna get a Compustar remote start system, but honestly I just use my accord as my beater/winter car. I’ve done a few remote start installs (3 or 4 roughly), so I’d like to say that I know what I’m doing. I’ve done a few searches on here looking for the wiring diagram for our cars, and I can’t seem to find them; or at least I cannot find any wiring diagrams that match each other! For example I found one post where there were 2 wiring diagrams posted… one showed that our cars had 3 IGNITION WIRES, and the other only showed 1. Anybody have an actual (correct) wiring diagram for our cars? I guess I could go to my old job @ circuit city and ask them to print out a wire diagram sheet for me if no one has this.
    Here’s a picture of what the alarm system appears to look like…

    I just ordered the alarm/remote start system yesterday. So I have no idea what to expect just yet.
    If it gets in this week I’ll attempt to install it this weekend, and possibly take some pictures if you guys are interested.
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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    how much did it run you?

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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    $90 roughly, but it looks like you can get them a bit cheaper ($77+) if you look around.
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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    make sure you leave your car in neutral or it will be one spectacular run.
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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    Quote Originally Posted by gsus
    $90 roughly, but it looks like you can get them a bit cheaper ($77+) if you look around.
    thats not bad i was planing on geting a 200 buck one that does the same thing...lol silly me...

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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    Nice, im looking at an alarm for my next addition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MessyHonda
    thats not bad i was planing on geting a 200 buck one that does the same thing...lol silly me...
    well if you got the money and/or the need for a more “advanced” alarm, then that would be your best bet. For me this Accord is just my daily, but I occasionally use it to lug around parts for my MR2. I was originally looking for a remote start & keyless system, But then I found out that their alarm with remote start was only $30 more (than their basic remote start w/ keyless system & no alarm), so I jumped on it. Basically just because I sometimes leave things in the Accord that I would rather not get stolen. Not that the alarm will stop them from doing it, but it’ll at least help deter them away more than without an alarm.

    Quote Originally Posted by shepherd79
    make sure you leave your car in neutral or it will be one spectacular run.
    Well this alarm is designed for manuals... so there is (or there SHOULD be) a sequence that you have to go through before getting out of your car.

    Could be as simple as just pulling up your e-brake & activating the remote start to keep the car on until you get out shut the door.
    Or
    Something more involved like, pulling the ebrake, flipping a switch so many times, activating the remote start, and shutting the door.

    in either of those examples, the car has to stay in neutral in order for the car to stay running when you get out.

    Also if the car is entered at any time before activating the remote start, it will disengage the remote start, in case the person that entered the car threw the car in gear.

    I’m not sure what sequence this alarm requires, but I can post what it is once I get it in.
    Last edited by gsus; 11-01-2006 at 12:43 PM.
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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    Sweet, It's to be delivered on Friday!! wOOt!!! I'll keep you guys posted.
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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    Quote Originally Posted by shepherd79
    make sure you leave your car in neutral or it will be one spectacular run.
    ya for real lol... vrOOOm hahah

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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    nice, i've got a compustar 2-way pager alarm on my ride.

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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    im going to start to look for a new alarm, but im not to sure if i should get one with remote start. ive heard it mess up the car or something.

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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    remote start ftw, ive always wanted one. i think i am going to look around today for one. they are always nice in winter

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonrichert
    nice, i've got a compustar 2-way pager alarm on my ride.
    I was originally gonna get a “basic” (no 2-way) compustar remote start system alarm, but they were still $150. So I spent $90 bucks on this alarm instead. If it were for my MR2 I would’ve spent the extra money for a 2 way system.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheeseburger
    im going to start to look for a new alarm, but im not to sure if i should get one with remote start. ive heard it mess up the car or something.
    There are only 2 things that I can think of that can “mess” up your car, both consisting of improper installation (or setup).
    -Your starter could eat itself away if the alarm is not setup up to release the starter once your car starts. Or I guess it could somehow fry the starter wires if installed incorrectly(or any wire for that matter)?
    -Improper install may mess things up if it’s not installed properly, like no soldered connections, exposed connections or installer not using the proper equipment to test your car for the proper wires (aka multimeter & not a “test light”).
    I’ve had a remote start alarm on my MR2 for a couple of years now without a problem so far.
    Quote Originally Posted by reanimator420
    remote start ftw, ive always wanted one. i think i am going to look around today for one. they are always nice in winter
    Do It!!! :p
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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    i have it on my wife's civic. it is nice in winter or hot days.
    Alex.

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    Does this look right to you guys?

    89 Accord wiring
    • Constant (12v) (+)
      COLOR: White (W/B) @ Ign Harness
    • Ignition(+)
      COLOR: Black/Yellow Ign Harness
    • Accessory(+)
      COLOR: Yellow/Blue @ Ign Harness
    • Starter(+)
      COLOR: Black/White @ Ign Harness
    • Tach(-)
      COLOR: Blue @ distributor (2pin plug )
    • Parking lights(+)
      COLOR: Red/Black @ Kick Panel – Fuse box
    • Brake light(+)
      COLOR: Green/White @ brake pedal
    • Door Trigger(-)
      COLOR: Black/White @ Fuse Box
    • Trunk Trigger(-)
      COLOR: Green/Black @ Under left side dash
    • Door lock(-)
      COLOR: Green or Blue From DEI lock relay
    • Door Unlock(-)
      COLOR: Green or Blue From DEI lock relay
    • Clutch bypass(?)
      COLOR: N/A @ clutch pedal

    Anyone know how are clutch switch works?
    *Is it a just an connection breakers switch - requires 2 wires (or more I guess), when clutch is depressed the it makes a connection, when pedal is released it breaks the connection.
    *Is it a ground switch? (doubting that it would be a positive switch…)
    Last edited by gsus; 11-03-2006 at 10:33 AM.
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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    Oh yeah! one more thing... what's the easiest way to get to the E-Brake wire? I'm definately gonna need that for the remote start.
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    Nevermind, Wires Have Been Comfirmed On Paper! Still need to test with multimeter!

    Okay, well let me start of by saying that the quality of this product is not nearly as good as some of the previous alarms I've installed (mostly DEI alarms), but I pretty much expected this! I'm not really worried, so long as it works!
    Their installation instructions are pretty lame (and pretty generic, looks like they use the same instructions for their full line of systems), good thing I have a tad bit of experience under my belt.
    The remote start activation sequence is quite simple
    Code:
    While the car is still running:
    -pull the hand brake
    -press the brake pedal 2 times 
    (alarm will confirm with 2 flashes/chirps & doors will unlock)
    -Remove key (car will stay running)
    -Exit the car & close the door(s) within 30 second
    The system will disengage the remote start if a door 
    is opened at any time before remote starting. This can 
    be prevented if the car is remote started before opening 
    the door, then manually shutting off the car (via remote)
    after the door(s) have been closed.
    This particular system from this place only consists of 3 harnesses to wire, but only a few wires for me to hook up in the Accord:
    Needed wires willl be in BOLD, unnecessary wires will be in ITALIC and optional wires will be left in PLAIN.
    6 PIN HEAVY GAUGE HARNESS:
    Code:
    *Starter output (+)
    *Heater/Accessory output (+)
    *12 Volt Input (+)30A
    *12 Volt Input (+)30A
    *Selectable output (+) 
    (for second Starter, Ignition or Accessory)
    14 PIN HARNESS
    Code:
    *Re-arm (-)250ma
    *Trunk Release (-)250ma
    *Dis-arm (-)250ma
    *Ground While Running output (-)
    *Siren output (+)250ma
    *Parking Brake input (-)
    *Door Pin input (+)
    *Hood Pin Switch (-)
    *Door Pin input (-)
    *System Ground input (-)
    *Brake light Switch input (+)
    *Tach. Input (-)
    *Diesel Wait-to-Start input (+ or -)
    3 PIN HARNESS (LOCKS)
    I'm installing aftermarket actuators, since the coupes didn't have the auto locks as an option. I will also be installing manual lock/unlock switches inside the car, for manual operation.
    Code:
    *Door Lock output (-)250ma
    *12v output (+)250ma
    *Door Unlock output (-)250ma
    ANTENNA 4 PIN CONNECTOR
    No need for wiring here .
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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    sucks...hope yo get it working. some of the best alarm installations is when the car is stripped and when you have all the wires in front of you

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    Some pictures of the alarm...

    Door lock parts

    2 Door lock Actuators
    DEI 451M Micro Door Lock Relay Module
    2 spring loaded buttons (for manual lock & unlock in the car!)
    Alarm/Remote Start System


    Hope you guys dont mind me posting all of this here... Not only is it so that you guys can see what you guys get with this system, but it's to remind me of what I need in case I need to look over some of this stuff tomorrow while I'm installing...
    Good night!
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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    Quote Originally Posted by MessyHonda
    sucks...hope yo get it working. some of the best alarm installations is when the car is stripped and when you have all the wires in front of you
    Yeah I'd have to agree with you on this... but this is going to be a basic install... the alarm feature is just a plus for me with this system. I'll figure out a place to mount the module and make things look semi neat under the dash.

    I'll probably take some pics of some of the install... maybe!
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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    wish they made it for carbed engines. would need something to pump the gas a bit to make it work. must be nice in the winter. here we dont need to warm up though.
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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    Quote Originally Posted by HondaBoy
    wish they made it for carbed engines. would need something to pump the gas a bit to make it work. must be nice in the winter. here we dont need to warm up though.
    I do, i prefer to drive with the RPM's at 1500 rather then 2000.
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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    I finally got the clutch bypassed (only bypassed through the alarm when remote starting, still need to press the clutch to start). Everything works fine for the most part... except that my accessories wont stay on? I tapped into the correct wire according to the Circuit City wiring diagram & the 12volt diagram... but it seems to only be an ignition wire. there is a white/red wire that is acting like an accessory wire (on in accessory, off while cranking, and on while the car is on). Does this seem right to you guys?


    ***
    well it turns out that the white/red wire is my accessory wire (stereo and heater work with the RS now)... the yellow appears to be a another ignition wire though.
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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    Hello,

    The ignition switch has 3 basic output needs, Acc, Run, Start.
    In the ignition switch, it is set up in a way like 2 separate ignition switches connected to the same key... one switch is fed by the white wire and the other switch is fed by the white/black wire

    then the outputs are different. I had issues the first time I installed my alarm kill switch because I chose the wrong power...

    I am at work right now but I have the diagram at home, PM me and I'll try and explain it for you... Make sure you use the black/yel wire (Run) to power the alarm because it is powered in the Run AND the Start position, there is an additional Run wire but it looses power when cranking the engine over (Start).

    There is a tap in the fuse box for the parking lights that connects with a female speaker terminal. Also, I believe the black/white wire you were looking at in the dashboard is for door trigger is the one for the ignition key light, don't forget that is a timed ground that is only activated by the driver's door. I tapped into the Safety indicator wiring (gauge cluster) for door and trunk (-) and it is activated by all 4 doors.

    I can explain this a lot better for you later
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    Re: I ordered a remote start alarm for my 89 LX-i.!!! 2256M

    ive had a remote start in all my cars...


    it involved me walking out to my driveway and me starting the car..

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