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obd0driver
01-08-2015, 09:40 AM
Thats right guy's it time to replace those 27 year old engine harnesses of ares and Carlos from cjswiring is just then man to help us.

Now let get right to it. You'll have your work cut out for you as this will be a DIY wire harness kit. That means you have put it together(make your own). So this will not be for the faint of heart and you'll need to have a bit of knowledge of wiring. However it's a the best way to get a price that everyone can afford.

There will be two options. Option A) will be an affordable basic kit for $240 shipped and will ship with in a week.
In the kit you will receive all of this.

325' Tefzel Wire, Assorted Sizes & Colors. normally include 10ft of wire lengths. Genealogy more than enough for A and B series Harness ends up being 8ft max depending on chassis and routing.

25' Raychem DR25 Assorted Sizes

Raychem ATUM 4:1 Glue Shrink Assorted Sizes

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Generic Crimp/Splice & Ring Terminals

Sensor Terminals/Seals, ECU Terminals

HARNESS CONNECTOR LIST:
• Oil Pressure Sending Unit
• Knock Sensor(Round Style)
• Intake Air Temperature (Intake Manifold Style)
• Oxygen Sensor (Primary 4 Wire)
• Alternator
• Injector 1-4
• MAP Sensor
• TPS (Throttle position)
• Idle Control Motor
• Electronic Speed Sensor
• Ground
• Fan Switch
• OBD1 Distributor plugs
• h20 Sending Unit (for Gauge Cluster)
• Reverse Lights(obd1 2pin)
• Engine Coolant Temp
• Starter Signal
• VTEC Solenoid
• OBD1 ECU Plugs A,B,D

Opinion B is everything in opinion a but with a mili spec firewall bulk head plug. No fire wall plate included(but available at a additional cost). This will run $440 shipped and will take a little longer as he will have to order the mili spec plugs as the orders come. Still about two week's.

I'm sure you guys will have questions for on how everything will work and all that. I will try my best to answer all of your questions as they pop up.

His site is where you can buy one. Just tell him you want the DIY kit for the accord. I will be get mine(mili spec) in about two weeks. You guy's can places orders now or wait tell I'm done with mine to see how it looks.

Here's a link to his site CJs Wiring — Home (http://cjswiring.bigcartel.com) and some photos of pass work to give you a idea of what you get. Enjoy and be sure to ask all questions here first if I can't answer them I will get the information for you.

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MessyHonda
01-08-2015, 10:08 AM
This is a good deal especially for the mili-spec. you know I'm close enough to take my car and test it out.

To be clear will all the connectors be new?

gp02a0083
01-08-2015, 10:08 AM
Carlos defiantly looks like he knows what he is doing, really nice quality work here and materials used and not some half-ass rat nest. I'm very happy to see that he uses the glue heat shrink, I use it on everything at work and its excellent. Even the shielded wire splice was done cleanly. The only one pet peeve i can say here is to have more wire colors to ID the conductors better, however that would drive cost up a little bit :sad2:

Looks like a concise kit to put together and for those savvy enough in electrical, this should be a piece of cake to assemble but sounds like the adaption to the 3rd gen chassis is going to have some frustrations. Keep us updated when you get your kit!

obd0driver
01-08-2015, 10:09 AM
This is a good deal especially for the mili-spec. you know I'm close enough to take my car and test it out.

To be clear will all the connectors be new?
Yes everything thing will be new.

obd0driver
01-08-2015, 10:16 AM
Carlos defiantly looks like he knows what he is doing, really nice quality work here and materials used and not some half-ass rat nest. I'm very happy to see that he uses the glue heat shrink, I use it on everything at work and its excellent. Even the shielded wire splice was done cleanly. The only one pet peeve i can say here is to have more wire colors to ID the conductors better, however that would drive cost up a little bit :sad2:

Looks like a concise kit to put together and for those savvy enough in electrical, this should be a piece of cake to assemble but sounds like the adaption to the 3rd gen chassis is going to have some frustrations. Keep us updated when you get your kit!
Yeah I try my hardest to get the best quality and a great price. And I will agree with you there will be some headache along the way but it will be worth it in the end. He has also been given me tips on how to loom everything so I'll be sure to post that information as I do mine and maybe some videos as I go along

crx_si-r
01-09-2015, 02:05 AM
Yes brand new obd1 connectors are included... I'm cj by the way. ;p
Instagram (http://instagram.com/p/xLfpDDtDPQ/)

crx_si-r
01-09-2015, 06:56 AM
If you want exact oem wire colors it can be done but price of course will go up slightly. As I explained to the op, I found it easier and faster to use as less wire colors. And in milspec harness in its truest form, it's generally done this way. If not then just 1 color. Here is how I explained I do it..
1 color for injectors to ecu
1 color for sensor signal
1 color for sensor grounds
1 color for ground
1 color for 12v
and 1 color for 5v.


Then I do a conitnuity test, as you should any way to ensure a proper connection, and terminate the wire as needed. Simple as that.

Now when it's a 1 piece harness, yes I will try and use oem wire colors as its 1 piece and no obstruction between sensor lead and ecu.

obd0driver
01-09-2015, 07:50 AM
Thanks good to know. And thanks for the wiring tip. I'm sure it will help someone down the road. The key is take your time and not rush through it. It's all about being efficient and double checking your work to make sure there is not mistakes. I think for me the hardest thing will be the looming process. because I've never done anything milispec and never loomed anything that way it's gonna take a moment to get the hang of it. But what you have shared with me helped.

crx_si-r
01-09-2015, 08:25 AM
If you follow my ig c_zapien I post a lot of up to the minute harnesses that make. So you can see how it's done. I don't so it with evert harness as it takes up time taking pics. But you will get the idea

gp02a0083
01-09-2015, 09:12 AM
If you want exact oem wire colors it can be done but price of course will go up slightly. As I explained to the op, I found it easier and faster to use as less wire colors. And in milspec harness in its truest form, it's generally done this way. If not then just 1 color. Here is how I explained I do it..
1 color for injectors to ecu
1 color for sensor signal
1 color for sensor grounds
1 color for ground
1 color for 12v
and 1 color for 5v.


Then I do a conitnuity test, as you should any way to ensure a proper connection, and terminate the wire as needed. Simple as that.

Now when it's a 1 piece harness, yes I will try and use oem wire colors as its 1 piece and no obstruction between sensor lead and ecu.


finally someone who actually who gave a short concise accurate answer lol. Exactly when it comes to sensors a single unbroken wire connection is the best, most people don't realize at a connector they can have an appreciable ohmic increase if the connection isn't good. I look forward to seeing more

crx_si-r
01-09-2015, 03:00 PM
Here are pics of new plugs

Honda Man
01-10-2015, 08:32 AM
Wow! That is an incredible price for this kind of quality. I applaud you sir! Crx_si-r is this a limited time offer kind of thing or will these be on sale for a while?

obd0driver
01-10-2015, 09:40 AM
They will be on sale for a while. Mine will be more of a test to see how Hard it is to do yourself and make to sure that everything need is there. You always have u the option of him put it together for a additional cost as well.

Honda Man
01-10-2015, 10:06 AM
Oh I'm all down for learning g how to do the wiring. I asked that because I can't get it yet and wanted to know if they will go away soon

obd0driver
01-10-2015, 10:12 AM
They not going anywhere anytime soon. I'll also post photos and progress updates what I get mine. I'll make a short video just like I've done for everything else I've help start

MessyHonda
01-10-2015, 11:33 AM
Pm sent to Carlos

obd0driver
01-10-2015, 11:36 AM
Ant a boy. Looks like I'm gonna get a lot for practice because I'm sure you'll be over at the shop doing it. Lol ahahahahaha

crx_si-r
01-10-2015, 02:35 PM
Wow! That is an incredible price for this kind of quality. I applaud you sir! Crx_si-r is this a limited time offer kind of thing or will these be on sale for a while?

I constantly stock the plugs, pins, wire and seals. The quick disconnect I do tend to stock a few on hand, but generally order them as they are needed. So if the quick disconnect is something you want give a boutique a week for it to arrive then ship out as a package.

obdriver6
01-10-2015, 08:07 PM
This has caught my eye but its unlikely I will get it any time soon. Either way, I'm glad this is being made.

gfrg88
01-11-2015, 08:32 AM
This is perfect! Can't wait to see the finished product 😀

obd0driver
01-12-2015, 10:00 AM
I need is the pinout for gauge cluster functions. Who's got it.

Tdurr
01-12-2015, 11:57 AM
for the wires in the cluster plugs?

obd0driver
01-12-2015, 11:59 AM
I got it. http://www.3geez.com/forum/restoration-custom-fabrication/71121-instrument-cluster-diagrams-both-digital-analog-gauges.html

Tdurr
01-12-2015, 12:04 PM
good deal.

MessyHonda
01-12-2015, 01:32 PM
is there a difference between 86-87 and 88-89? because the diagram is for an 87

obd0driver
01-13-2015, 08:42 PM
I'm not sure but will find soon harness get shipped tomorrow.

obd0driver
01-13-2015, 09:13 PM
I'm actually a little nervous to tell you the to tell you the truth. But I'm sure I'll be find and I have a second harness to pin to a broad and make a jig to copy. Lol ahahhaha I guess that's cheating right

MessyHonda
01-13-2015, 09:24 PM
yeah looks like I'm going with the 94 gsr OBD1 non-milispec with quick disconect plug. I cant wait.

obd0driver
01-14-2015, 06:10 AM
Pretty sure mine isn't to much different

MessyHonda
01-14-2015, 09:17 AM
Im going to have Dana with the Wagon to help me out with the wire harness. Will post pics when the harness comes in.

obd0driver
01-14-2015, 09:23 AM
You can always bring it over to the shop. We're gonna work on get my car there this weekend and Monday is a day off for me so will start laying thing on a board and matching everything to the car. I figure it should take us a week working 1-2 hours a day on it. So really it should take a day to put it together with two people. Once I do mine it should be faster then that.

MessyHonda
01-14-2015, 09:31 AM
Im going to have to relocate my fuse box under the dash and bring the wiring harness from the drivers side strut tower inside the cabin. Im going with the MilSpec quick disconect plug and plate from CJ. its going to make it much easier to work on the car with the wires out of the way. I also plan to relocate the battery to the trunk so new wires will be installed. I dont think this harness comes with the charge cables. I been looking at Rywire and they have a detached charge harness that will bolt thru the firewall under the intake manifold. The engine bay will be tucked as much as posible but still make things accesable when trubleshooting issues.

obd0driver
01-16-2015, 01:02 PM
Well that's was fast. update coming soon. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/16/667e9b2d40591e344e6d24faa33b3f51.jpg

MessyHonda
01-16-2015, 11:20 PM
downpayment sent

Rendon LX-i
01-17-2015, 04:12 PM
Seems like a route I should of took. But at this point I already tore my harness apart an clean it up. I could add a mil-spec plug.

Very nice work. So if I'm reading right this is just for the pieces to make your own harness correct?

obd0driver
01-17-2015, 04:45 PM
OK here you guy's. 3geez mili spec DIY kit from CJS wiring. 3geez mili spec DIY kit from CJS wiring. - YouTube (http://youtu.be/b67UhVbz3iw)

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obd0driver
01-17-2015, 04:46 PM
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obd0driver
02-02-2015, 07:25 PM
Well guy's I got some good news for those who woulf like to try there had at making there own milspce harness. We now have a rental tool program. I good deal on two of these bad boy's. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/02/5f8a20085479256f20350a296f2ddd19.jpg

So when every you're ready let me know and will work out the details from there.

MessyHonda
02-04-2015, 03:46 PM
Im on the waiting list. I have couple more weeks to go. cant wait to take out the harness and put the new one back in.

Hash_man_Se_i
02-08-2015, 09:01 PM
Nice looking kit. I would love to redo my harness one day, but not sure I have the patience to do it myself. I'm curious to see how your harnesses turn out.

obd0driver
02-09-2015, 12:13 PM
Well i started it this weekend. I dudnt get to far do to other plans i made but heres a teaser http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/09/46f9857691b9f22d2beedb84c69bc49d.jpg

5speedlife
10-25-2017, 05:43 PM
are these harnesses still available for order

obd0driver
10-26-2017, 04:13 AM
are these harnesses still available for orderShort answer is yes. But you can order bluk kits from wirring motor sports company's now. I also didnt finish mine but it was sent off to Ethan to add the c.o.p. setup to it as well.

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Oldblueaccord
08-17-2020, 06:30 PM
are these harnesses still available for order

Any updates from anyone?

His site seems to be dead.

https://cjswiring.bigcartel.com/bio

obd0driver
08-17-2020, 07:30 PM
Any updates from anyone?

His site seems to be dead.

https://cjswiring.bigcartel.com/bioHe's still around he just recently had he's leg cut off be low the knee because of cancer. He's still making custom harnesses and has even made one for messy.

As for mine it was sent to susanoo to have him add the c.o.p and I'm still waiting for that to happen to [emoji2375]

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obd0driver
08-17-2020, 07:33 PM
Here's his ighttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200818/bea68911c89af2dfed8684025c598ec4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200818/45391b6cc67230a0d6ee2ca659643407.jpg

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Oldblueaccord
08-17-2020, 07:38 PM
Oh damn I hope hes ok.

I just check links etc from time to time to see whats live and whats not.