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xvok
10-02-2007, 11:12 PM
so as some of you know i got a car with a blown headgasket and all the general gayness that goes along with that if you want you can read all about that in my old thread. http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61427 anyways since then I have dissassimbled the engine and taken it to britco machine shop for some tlc http://www.britcoengines.com/ what I am having them do is a bore hone. then deck the block. hot tank. and the mic and polish my crank .in addtion I went ahead and orderd berrings pistons and seals through them. all of that will be ready for me on the 8th. I have to throw in a little plug for them here they where knowdalagable profeshnal and prompt they where also reasonabley priced (kinda lol spent way more then i planned). So in the mean time I though that I would tie up all of the lose ends let me stard off with photo jernal of this car.

the car - hood
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt001.jpg
the crappy batt relocation
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt005.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt008.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt011.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt012.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt021.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt024.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt026.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt030.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt031.jpg

xvok
10-02-2007, 11:14 PM
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt037.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt043.jpg
engine pull with demon eyes 2nd gen guy
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt048.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt054.jpg
some randon fu=cking around
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt092.jpg
engine tear down
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt072.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt077.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt075.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt086.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt089.jpg

xvok
10-02-2007, 11:15 PM
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt091.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt098.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt101.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt102.jpg
hood painting
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt108.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt111.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt112.jpg
and latest pics are a little wire clean up
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt135.jpg
after
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt137.jpg
also got an canda head
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62057
thats all for now more updates as they happen

2ndGenGuy
10-02-2007, 11:28 PM
Looking good so far... Not that I haven't seen most of that in person. Random that we both get our engines going at the same time, and live in the same town. I think working on your car, really got me going on my 1gee. Lets see who finishes first!

xvok
10-03-2007, 05:09 PM
didnt do to much today took my intake and hedders in to shop and media blasted them also took some pics of them next to the us exulivents
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt143.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt142.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt139.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt138.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt141.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt140.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt144.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt146.jpg
the intake is totaly diffrent but im prety sure that the headders are the same minus the blace where the egr bung hole would be drilled in.

bobafett
10-03-2007, 05:42 PM
good stuff. that new intake manifold looks way better!

2ndGenGuy
10-03-2007, 09:11 PM
Man that media blasting is awesome! I've got a handheld sandblaster at home... I think I'm going to do the same thing. That Canadian manifold is sexxay! Especially compared to that giagantic US manifold.

2ndGenGuy
10-03-2007, 09:53 PM
Here, buy this xvok:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-HONDA-ACCORD-SERVICE-MANUAL_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ230176421764QQsspage nameZRSSQ3aBQ3aSRCHQ3aUSQ3a102

$17.00 to your door. Can't beat it.

79cord
10-04-2007, 07:46 PM
Especially compared to that giagantic US manifold.
& the '79-81 EL manifold looked even smaller without those extra water pipes!

I saw one figure quoted for the '81 EK engine weight & looked up the equivalent spec in my '79 EL w/shop manual:
EK = 158 kg/351 lbs
EL = 145 kg/322 lbs

Even though they shared the same engine block !
13 KG !!!
& that's not even including the Cat converter used on post '80 EK.

xvok
10-05-2007, 11:41 AM
I cant say that surprises me at all consitering. i guss with this car since the power is never going to be all that great ill have to go for light and good handling.

2ndGenGuy
10-05-2007, 02:24 PM
Just find yourself that Jackson Racing turbo kit. There's gotta be one out there somewhere... :D

xvok
10-05-2007, 08:16 PM
ya ittl be right after i fing the b18c1 swap kit

bobafett
10-05-2007, 10:03 PM
wow both good ideas. lol would be such a fast little hatch!
even though you are joking around, isn't it tempting to be the first (?) turbo 2g swapped accord? hehe

2ndGenGuy
10-05-2007, 11:55 PM
wow both good ideas. lol would be such a fast little hatch!
even though you are joking around, isn't it tempting to be the first (?) turbo 2g swapped accord? hehe

Haha! I was talking about the old-school Jackson Racing blow-through turbo kit for the early E-series motors. Uses an SU carb. It's a pretty crazy looking setup for sure!

This is the only picture I can find of it, but Jackson Racing has been making Honda performance stuff forever! And yes, that is all on the back of the engine.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h256/jgturk/Picture2.png

Read this article, and learn much about early Honda performance possibilities. They used to make trips to Canada to buy batches of EL heads and sell them down here in a package with headers, cam, exhaust, carbs, etc. I guess they got some pretty wicked power with that stuff.

Even mentions them running 14.5 with a 1200cc Civic, and doing ice racing with turbo / nitrous setups on the early E-series engines as well.

xvok
10-06-2007, 09:28 AM
ohy hey thats cool do you think that it would be possiable to get a bigger version of that pic I might actualy be willing to give it a try assuming that i can at least kinda half assedley see what I am doing.

2ndGenGuy
10-06-2007, 12:12 PM
Nah... that's all I've got of it myself. :(

xvok
10-06-2007, 01:17 PM
http://www.1stgencivic.org/discuss/8953-1108606062.html picture links are broken but he managed to turbo a 1.6l with a renult fugo turbo form canada prety intresting stuff.
just about gave up on finding it too i thint the key words "civic turbo" has more hits then "porn"

Civic Accord Honda
10-06-2007, 01:41 PM
i like where u put the battery
is yours a LX? i know my door panels where vinal and yours are cloth
mine was a STD so maybe thats why lol

i miss mine

xvok
10-06-2007, 03:58 PM
yup lx i think cloth was an option because i pulled a door from a jy and it had red vinal so i had to swap my interior pannles out. also that car didnt have a pass miror so i threw mine on for good masure. wonder i any one would notice if i removed both mirors

79cord
10-07-2007, 01:19 PM
Usually a legal requirement to have at least one mirror!

xvok
10-07-2007, 05:05 PM
ya I know but some times you see things on such a rutine baisis you would be likeley to overlook it

Cheeseburger
10-07-2007, 06:54 PM
awesome!!!!

xvok
10-17-2007, 06:28 PM
man sory about taking forever for updated i got all of my stuff back from the shop and it all looks so nice and perdy. also i finaly have a bench / cabinets so the gargue is on its way towards becoming a ligitimate gargue. anyhoo here are the pics pics pics
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt147.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt148.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt149.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt150.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt151.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt152.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt153.jpg
any questions are welcome

xvok
10-17-2007, 06:39 PM
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt154.jpg
bench
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt155.jpg
i keeps it real
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt156.jpg
rad
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt157.jpg
carb
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt158.jpg

xvok
10-17-2007, 07:06 PM
i know i probaly shouldnt but i couldnt resist any longer
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt159.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt160.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt161.jpg
honda engine in a cabinent
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt162.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt163.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt164.jpg
i guss i do rely like painting things

2ndGenGuy
10-17-2007, 07:28 PM
Shit is looking good. The garage is starting to come together... got some work left to do, but the Honda section is looking good. :thumbup:

Civic Accord Honda
10-17-2007, 08:24 PM
Cool!

MessyHonda
10-17-2007, 11:49 PM
lots of red.

offthahook
10-18-2007, 01:04 PM
I'm guessing you painted the block, too? Man, it does all look really good. I'm still trippin' over how you lost your oil pan due to your buddy spacing out on you. That sucked, but it looks like you're really getting it all together!

xvok
10-18-2007, 02:39 PM
i got a new one no worys

twizted_ninja
10-19-2007, 11:38 PM
damn looks good!

Placebo
10-24-2007, 08:01 AM
Looks like you're making quite a bit of progress, but if you have a pink chair in there, can it really be a "ligitimate gargue"?

xvok
10-24-2007, 04:50 PM
hey dont dis on my carb rebuilding chair that things hard core its mising a leg

xvok
10-27-2007, 07:38 PM
finaly in its home
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt168.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt169.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt170.jpg
even the dog likes it
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt173.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt174.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt175.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt176.jpg

2ndGenGuy
10-27-2007, 09:58 PM
That's awesome! I would have helped ya move the car if I wasn't sick as hell this week. I also would have built my engine this weekend too, you building yours next weekend? If so, we'll have to see who finishes first next weekend. :D

offthahook
10-28-2007, 04:26 PM
Looks like some progress!

xvok
11-24-2007, 11:13 AM
That's awesome! I would have helped ya move the car if I wasn't sick as hell this week. I also would have built my engine this weekend too, you building yours next weekend? If so, we'll have to see who finishes first next weekend. :D
excuses excuses:violin:

hondalude86
12-20-2007, 01:11 AM
damn, i'm impressed. i am very impressed. any info bout how one might be able to get an a16 crank and rods?

2ndGenGuy
12-20-2007, 02:25 AM
damn, i'm impressed. i am very impressed. any info bout how one might be able to get an a16 crank and rods?

Lookin' to do that de-stroked A20 eh? Best get to know somebody in Canada. While I don't think they have A16's the EZ engine should be what you're looking for. Maybe PM Holy^Ghost, he is parting out his Canadian 2g Accord.

Civic Accord Honda
01-10-2008, 11:13 PM
bump

xvok
01-16-2008, 08:06 PM
lol updated
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt184.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt183.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/batt181.jpg

Civic Accord Honda
01-27-2008, 07:22 PM
dude!!! someone came and put a engine in your car!!!

2ndGenGuy
01-27-2008, 10:52 PM
I want my cylinder head back. ;)

xvok
02-28-2008, 07:55 AM
oh god many many updates its almost running turned it over a bit last night. but massive vaccume leaks out the ass so made some gaskets and shlacked them up they ought to be ready by the time i get home so hopefully great secusss tonight vids and pics when i get home

xvok
02-28-2008, 07:56 AM
oh and john no gasket between top adabter and carb

bobafett
02-28-2008, 08:48 AM
good job yo! will be cool to see a long awaited car finally running again. :( :( :( hehe

xvok
02-28-2008, 09:52 AM
hey thanks ya I don't relly think anyone could be happier then me im so sick of borrowing others cars little kia soppiah gmc jimmy (at least i got my use out of that) 97 accord (i haz the v6s now) but ya i think for the first time in my life i will be driving a car that is regerstered in my name up to date on tabs and insured

2ndGenGuy
02-28-2008, 12:12 PM
Wow you didn't post videos of it turning over and backfiring through the carb? Man those would be awesome, need to get those up ASAP. Oh well, I have a few pics to load up here in a little while. They're glorious.

There was no gasket between the carb and the top adapter plate? LOL that might explain the vacuum leakage.

xvok
02-28-2008, 01:35 PM
ya john after i finished making those gaskets it was almost 4 am and i had to be up at 6 so i just called it a night

2ndGenGuy
02-28-2008, 05:01 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2049/2299397526_5eb412084a.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2139/2299397244_ee37b9e6a5.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2115/2299396968_757e0f7c48.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2265/2298599577_681f50e466.jpg

xvok
02-29-2008, 12:28 AM
hers a short clip of it turning over for the first time http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/?action=view&current=batt196.flv

xvok
02-29-2008, 08:23 AM
new viedo of it runnning fricking sweet cable clutch is wierd viedo (http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/?action=view&current=batt197.flv) and about my voice i was trying to emulate top gear to make my frind laugh

2ndGenGuy
02-29-2008, 08:53 AM
w000t! So fixing the vacuum leak took care of that idle no doubt. Good deal man! I'm coming over to go for a ride tonight. I bet it's weird having it on the road! Congrats man!

redaztec
02-29-2008, 10:32 AM
Congrats! Nice to see it running. Can't wait to hear it running again once you've got that belt squeal taken care of!

forrest89sei
02-29-2008, 10:57 AM
Looks Great man!

:thumbup:

xvok
02-29-2008, 02:32 PM
lol i did take care of the squeel it was my throwout berring there fixed

2ndGenGuy
02-29-2008, 04:00 PM
lol i did take care of the squeel it was my throwout berring there fixed

Yeah takes like 5 minutes to fix the throwout bearing, I know. :Owned:

Ichiban
02-29-2008, 04:14 PM
What was wrong with the throwout bearing? I hope you were spotlessly clean and used plastigauge when assembling the bottom end.

xvok
02-29-2008, 04:37 PM
humm the throwout berring is old as was the friction plate and flywheel they all came from the jy to my car im gonna do the clutch soon thought ill do evberythin up then probaly after the break in period. ya i was good about asimbling the block probaly the only part of this whole build that i di keep clean and safe didnt cut any corners there. but ya good times untell the break in is done its raining here witch was kinda of unexpected so i probaly should have done a little wether profing oh whell

Placebo
03-01-2008, 04:09 AM
Wow, congrats on getting it all put together man. :cheers:
I remember the feeling of first starting up my car, like no other.

russiankid
03-02-2008, 07:54 AM
Looks great and sounds great too:thumbup:

xvok
03-03-2008, 09:00 AM
thanks hopefully it will be looking better and sounding better soon im thinking as soon as i get the bugs out its time for some new paint

SZfiftyfour
03-03-2008, 11:47 AM
:thumbup:Cool deal, its coming along nicely. What color are you wanting to get it painted?

xvok
03-03-2008, 02:54 PM
um not quite sure yet i do kinda like that whole gray blackish sceme and it looks good with all that chrome (i feal like a cholo) but ya it would probaly be a cupple mounths out for paint b4 that i need a new radiator and to do my clutch all up lightend flywheel and stage 2 clutch and gonna try for a cam regrind

Ichiban
03-03-2008, 05:15 PM
Is it quicker with my mom's cylinder head on it? It used to be on my parents car.

ChaseR
03-03-2008, 06:12 PM
Damn that thing is nice, I wonder if a K20 would fit in that car?

Civic Accord Honda
03-04-2008, 10:24 AM
fucking sweet!!!! 82-83hatchs FTW!!

2ndGenGuy
03-04-2008, 11:19 AM
Damn that thing is nice, I wonder if a K20 would fit in that car?

Sure why wouldn't it? :D

SZfiftyfour
03-04-2008, 12:59 PM
Damn that thing is nice, I wonder if a K20 would fit in that car?

I was pondering that myself, even a base K20 would be killer in a 2g. It is a fairly tall motor though. Raised center cowl ftw.

denhonda
03-06-2008, 01:20 PM
Engine sounds good. No dodgy knockings to be heard!

Good on ya.

xvok
03-07-2008, 04:59 PM
oh ya massive vaccume leks and gay ness im taking the intake mani back off and redoing it this weekend k20 would be sweet but if im not mistaken the tranny is on the other side and i think that having the long half shaft on the passenger side would fuck with some sterring and such but hell if you can swap a b series why not k it would be swell maby when i hav e anouther vehicle ill think about doing a crazy swap. I think once i get the moter running whell and broken in and such im gonna focous on suspension and tightning down the car. like the first time i drove it i thought that something was teriabley wrong then john comes by and drives it and says" thats about right" so i see front and rear sway bars and maby a half cage and some underbracing in its future

redaztec
03-07-2008, 08:38 PM
Yep, you're correct that the K20 tranny is on the opposite side. I drive both my 3G and an RSX and I'm pretty sure the K20 wouldn't fit in the 3G without a substantially raised hood. I assume it would be the same for the 2G.

Sounds like you've got a good plan for the suspension - keep up the great work!

2ndGenGuy
03-07-2008, 09:42 PM
Yeah it wasn't that terrible to drive. Just what a 25 year old car is going to drive like. Konis FTMFW. Is it still making that squealing noise?

AccordB20A
03-09-2008, 04:20 AM
Engine sounds good. No dodgy knockings to be heard!
Good on ya.

allways a good bonus top work

xvok
03-09-2008, 12:41 PM
not squelling all this time now just when i have the clutch all the way in ripping the old mani okff as wee speek so hopefully this will turn out good try to have some updates later tonight hey john did you take my other hedders? i cant find then anywhere and thats a hard part to lose

xvok
03-11-2008, 10:09 AM
oh man this all is turning out to be harder then i thought first of all i didn't rely think to hard about how the water flowed and when i ripped the intake mani off i lost all of my coolent (thanks a fucking lot gravity) and then it took me way longer then i rembered to get the mani off . humm then the other adaptor plate didnt line up line up and fit like i thought it would in my mind so i thought about trying to fill in the old holes with jb weld and re locating them but then i decided to just use the adaptor as a template and just make my own because the quality on the redline webber adaptor plates is very questionable to say the least. so im gonna go pick up some metal stock today and try to get this all together tonight

ChaseR
03-11-2008, 10:16 PM
oh ya massive vaccume leks and gay ness im taking the intake mani back off and redoing it this weekend k20 would be sweet but if im not mistaken the tranny is on the other side and i think that having the long half shaft on the passenger side would fuck with some sterring and such but hell if you can swap a b series why not k it would be swell maby when i hav e anouther vehicle ill think about doing a crazy swap. I think once i get the moter running whell and broken in and such im gonna focous on suspension and tightning down the car. like the first time i drove it i thought that something was teriabley wrong then john comes by and drives it and says" thats about right" so i see front and rear sway bars and maby a half cage and some underbracing in its future


actually both shafts are about the same size, there is an intermediate shaft that runs in the center right off the transmission.

xvok
03-12-2008, 11:49 AM
whell maby when i get back from basic and tech school illl give it a shot

2ndGenGuy
03-12-2008, 01:49 PM
oh man this all is turning out to be harder then i thought first of all i didn't rely think to hard about how the water flowed and when i ripped the intake mani off i lost all of my coolent (thanks a fucking lot gravity) and then it took me way longer then i rembered to get the mani off . humm then the other adaptor plate didnt line up line up and fit like i thought it would in my mind so i thought about trying to fill in the old holes with jb weld and re locating them but then i decided to just use the adaptor as a template and just make my own because the quality on the redline webber adaptor plates is very questionable to say the least. so im gonna go pick up some metal stock today and try to get this all together tonight

I was wondering how you were planning on using that adapter on the Canadian manifold. They have different stud patterns and different port shapes for the carb... It will be interesting to see what you come up with though.

xvok
03-16-2008, 11:41 PM
working on it i have kille dlike 4 rotery tools on this one common logic would say that that just isnt the tool for the job but i got a litftine warnty so why not keep abusing them harbor freights return policy kicks ass

xvok
07-15-2008, 10:56 AM
wow i just realized that it hadd been a while since i did and update so i guss here it goes i got the crazy adaptor plate mad and the car running and idleing whell but now my tach is all over the map. but i can play it by ear prety whell. Before i headed off to basic i took it on the freeway for the first time and it survived the trip there and back with out any misshaps. then about two days later i gargued it and gave my mom instructions to turn it over once a week got on an airplane and headed off to basic. It was a hard and rewarding 6.5 weeks and i defentaly thought back to haw many sleepless nights i had working tell all hours on my car. I am an odd sort of person and when something is wrong i usaly cant sleep untell its fixed i would sometimes even find myself wake up at 2 am to go out and fix something stupid on the car or finish one more step. that served me whell in basic because wew never got much sleep. The thing i missed most was driving you never realize how much you miss the most mundane drive to and from work or even going somewhere you dont want to be. If you can enjoy it . i graduated basic and earned the title of ariman and headed off to where i am now in wichita falls tx at sheppard afb ill be here for 2 more months while i learn how to preform my job of crew cheif on the f22 raptor think glorifed mechenic with lots of paperwork. and then from there its over to florda and then back to the great(and normal sory texans )state of washington for a few weeks untell its off to langley afb vergenia. so i gess the point here is enjoy all the litttle problems on your cars and the time it takes to fix them because as inconvenient as it may be there may come a time when you dont have the luxery. thats my moment of zen i cant wait to be back home and see my friends and family and my car as much of a clunker as it may be . peace btw john when i get back we have to hook up and party. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/USAF_F-22_Raptor_Screensaver.jpg

2ndGenGuy
07-15-2008, 12:13 PM
Woo hoo partay! How's the weather been? Scorcher I take it. You know, if you send a few buck back this way for parts, I'd be more than happy to get your car running right and have her going for when you get back. Hell if you want, I'll do the interior, and get some springs, paint, etc. :D :D :D

Let me know when you get back! Definitely gotta hang out.

haridev
08-22-2008, 10:22 PM
newbie question?? is that engine an EL or EK? looks like a non-cvcc el to me...but i might be very wrong. anyway excellent work on the engine. looks amazing. also as he said, cherish the minor issues with the car. even i miss working with my car and have to wait till the holidays....regards, dev

2ndGenGuy
08-25-2008, 07:55 AM
newbie question?? is that engine an EL or EK? looks like a non-cvcc el to me...but i might be very wrong. anyway excellent work on the engine. looks amazing. also as he said, cherish the minor issues with the car. even i miss working with my car and have to wait till the holidays....regards, dev

That was an EK bottom end with an EL head on it. So that's why it looks like the non-cvcc EL. I got the cylinder head from Canada from guyhatesmycar. It was on his parents car, then transplanted into his car. That thing's got some history! ;)

2ndGenGuy
08-26-2008, 09:11 AM
Okay Nathan, I went over to your house and checked out your car... I don't think there's a whole ton of work to do. First thing I need is the factory service manual so I can get some of the wiring taken care of.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-Honda-ACCORD-Service-Manual-ORIGINAL_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ34229QQihZ009Q QitemZ190111674382QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V

The wiring being the following:

Fuel gauge is dead
Tachometer is dead
Oil pressure switch not hooked up
Temp gauge is dead
Radiator fan switch is overridden, for reliability, we should hook it to the switch.

When I first started the car up, it was making a horrific grinding noise. It sounded just awful. I took the upper timing belt cover off and found the cam gear bolt was making it's way back out, and the gear was loose. I suspect the belt may have slipped as well, since the cam is now timed to about 18 degrees and the car is gutless as hell.

Also, that rear engine mount needs to be replaced. The solid mount you made is going to rattle the car apart. They're only about $20-30 and will make the car much nicer to drive and diagnose problems.

Once the main electrical stuff is hooked up, and the timing belt is reset, I'll give the car a good tune. Reset the ignition timing and get the car a good idle. I'm sure she'll pick her power back up.

The engine looks a hell of a lot better since I last saw it. Good work cleaning up all that stuff and hooking it up right. Did you make that Weber adapter plate?

2ndGenGuy
10-12-2008, 08:43 PM
Update.

Fuel gauge now works.
Tachometer now works.
Tested the temp gauge and it's good. Just a bad sending unit.
Tested the fan switch, and the fan circuitry works fine. Just the fan switch itself is dead.

I fixed the cam timing. The car runs MUCH smoother. It's amazing really. I also fixed the electric choke, it was hooked to a circuit that wasn't working. Probably why the car ran like crap after it was warmed up. The choke works properly now.

So tomorrow first thing in the AM, I'm picking up the temp sensors, another gallon of coolant, and I should have the engine all timed in and running great.

If I get a chance this week, I'll build the catch can, and plumb the charcoal canister into the carb as well. Probably after I throw new pads and rotors on it though.

2ndGenGuy
10-14-2008, 10:24 AM
So last night I got it running right finally. I took videos, but they didn't save onto the XD card in the camera! So they're still trapped in the camera... I hope it has a move function or it will be trapped forever! Maybe I'll just take my camera over there and get video...

Anywho, the fans kick on now, the temp gauge works. I reset the ignition timing (distributor was about 20 degrees off) so the car can actually climb the driveway under it's own power now! The car idles great at 900RPM, no noises or anything strange. I drove it around and let it get nice and warm and the temps stay where they should. I checked the timing with a light and it magically lined up right where it should be. Though I need to reset the mixture, get the idle down just a bit and reset the timing again...

Also, I hooked up the oil pressure switch. I found the wire taped up inside the wiring harness, hooked to another wire of the wrong color. Hehe. I put a ring terminal on the end of it and connected it up. Oil pressure light works as it should (doesn't come on while the car is running).

The car doesn't rattle itself apart anymore. It starts on the first crank, but I won't have a new engine mount until Friday for it. I need to know if you want me to pick up brake pads, shoes and rotors for it or not. Brakes need bleeding too...

I think some new tie rod ends and all four ball joints are in order too. There's some nice clunking in the rear end.

Engine sounds good though. I love how much crisper it sounds than the EK. Maybe it's the gutted cat. Either way, I'm excited to get it all tightened up.

Civic Accord Honda
10-14-2008, 02:58 PM
sweet ! i want pixors john

ChaseR
10-14-2008, 06:47 PM
wow i just realized that it hadd been a while since i did and update so i guss here it goes i got the crazy adaptor plate mad and the car running and idleing whell but now my tach is all over the map. but i can play it by ear prety whell. Before i headed off to basic i took it on the freeway for the first time and it survived the trip there and back with out any misshaps. then about two days later i gargued it and gave my mom instructions to turn it over once a week got on an airplane and headed off to basic. It was a hard and rewarding 6.5 weeks and i defentaly thought back to haw many sleepless nights i had working tell all hours on my car. I am an odd sort of person and when something is wrong i usaly cant sleep untell its fixed i would sometimes even find myself wake up at 2 am to go out and fix something stupid on the car or finish one more step. that served me whell in basic because wew never got much sleep. The thing i missed most was driving you never realize how much you miss the most mundane drive to and from work or even going somewhere you dont want to be. If you can enjoy it . i graduated basic and earned the title of ariman and headed off to where i am now in wichita falls tx at sheppard afb ill be here for 2 more months while i learn how to preform my job of crew cheif on the f22 raptor think glorifed mechenic with lots of paperwork. and then from there its over to florda and then back to the great(and normal sory texans )state of washington for a few weeks untell its off to langley afb vergenia. so i gess the point here is enjoy all the litttle problems on your cars and the time it takes to fix them because as inconvenient as it may be there may come a time when you dont have the luxery. thats my moment of zen i cant wait to be back home and see my friends and family and my car as much of a clunker as it may be . peace btw john when i get back we have to hook up and party. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/ulin505/USAF_F-22_Raptor_Screensaver.jpg


Congrats Airman... Don't sweat it I love my Old honda too as much as a clunker as It may be!

2ndGenGuy
10-14-2008, 09:48 PM
Well I drove clear the fuck back out to ghetto-ass Lacey to get a video of your car. Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV5J3YiyzgU

:D :D :D

Civic Accord Honda
10-15-2008, 01:50 AM
Well I drove clear the fuck back out to ghetto-ass Lacey to get a video of your car. Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV5J3YiyzgU

:D :D :D
i made a post but 3geez did not let it work :( so ill sum up what i said before

ooooo :jawdrop:.......very.......very.....very.....nice! ! :D:D:D:D

xvok
10-15-2008, 03:50 AM
ya ok lacey is defentaly the getto says the man who lives out in the woods. it looks good man seems like it runs nice and all i cant wait to drive it 2weeks and 3 days cant wait. oh and i saw my doggie and my mommie ya

xvok
10-15-2008, 03:51 AM
does my fuel gage work i dont rember leving almost empty

2ndGenGuy
10-15-2008, 03:15 PM
Yeah it works. It didn't work before, but it suddenly started working when I was screwing with the wiring behind the gauges... I dunno why it works now really... same with the tach. Though I did unhook the coil then hook it back up again, but I didn't change anything... maybe just corroded connections? It slowly goes up to 1/4 tank now which is where it stayed when I was driving it around Lacey.

Civic Accord Honda
12-21-2008, 02:25 AM
bump.

2ndGenGuy
06-16-2009, 10:27 PM
Bump for updates. Check out the car now. My friend bought it from Nathan about 6 months ago for $50 and has been driving it ever since. He put new engine mounts in, reseated the carburetor and replaced the throttle cable, and replaced the cam with a mild grind after the old one broke into pieces... And he went ahead and gave it a new rattlecan paintjob to make it all one color again. He showed up at my house today and I had to get pics.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3417/3635112668_22bcda44ed_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jgturk/3635112668/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3646/3635111578_3fff9d732f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jgturk/3635111578/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2467/3635110170_4fe6b5750f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jgturk/3635110170/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3590/3635108964_09c99850a5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jgturk/3635108964/)

The rattle can paint job came out pretty good! Too bad about all the dents in the car, but otherwise, you gotta love that green!

85SE-i
06-16-2009, 11:23 PM
Wow 2ndGenGuy, your driveway looks a lot like mine with Hondas all over the place.:rockon:
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2859/dscf0133z.jpg

2ndGenGuy
06-16-2009, 11:46 PM
I've got two more friends with 2nd gens, and another with two civics, and his dad's S2000. Gotta get them all over in my driveway for pics. Should be quite crowded on Friday when there are at least two more 3geez in the driveway!

85SE-i
06-17-2009, 12:02 AM
The Prelude, green 92 Accord and the 2gee are mine. The Integra is my brothers, the Acura RL is my moms and the tan 92 Accord belongs to my friend Brian. The Prelude I still have, the green Accord I gave to a friend and the 2gee I traded for a 90 CRX Si which I have sold. My brother sold the Integra to a guy in SoCal, my mom still has the RL and my friends wife got T-boned by a Suburban in their tan Accord. But I do still have my SE-i!!!!!

Hazwan
06-17-2009, 12:14 AM
Woah that rattle can paintjob looks sweet!

Civic Accord Honda
06-17-2009, 02:47 AM
oh wow! that looks awesome!! i was going to paint my accord that green with the roll on paint job! i <3 it

i hope the new guy his a member :O

SZfiftyfour
06-17-2009, 07:16 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3590/3635108964_09c99850a5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jgturk/3635108964/)


Nice! He does a good job with a rattlecan; props. Green looks pretty good on a 2g.
Mine has those same dents on the hood, right at the edge of the cowl where it looks "pinched". I hate that shite.

2ndGenGuy
06-17-2009, 07:54 AM
Yeah those dents didn't used to be there. I think it's from lifting and dropping the hood. Plus the PO had removed the structural support under the hood.

1GEN
06-17-2009, 12:41 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3646/3635111578_3fff9d732f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jgturk/3635111578/)


Yay back of my head!

Lil Mike
06-17-2009, 01:55 PM
yea man thats a sweet car wish mine was nice and non rusty like that and for $50 bucks!

MessyHonda
06-17-2009, 11:40 PM
nice pics

xvok
12-29-2010, 10:23 PM
damn i shouldn't have sold that car for 50 bux oh well i like my new car too :)

Ichiban
12-30-2010, 03:28 AM
Id kill for rust free....

2ndGenGuy
12-31-2010, 12:21 AM
damn i shouldn't have sold that car for 50 bux oh well i like my new car too :)

It still runs and drives too. Even with the junkyard main bearing cap that you put in there. :) It's been sold to a new owner who still drives it. It got a slightly more aggressive cam in it, which I never got to experience, but I guess really woke up the car. Also the 2x4 engine mount got replaced with rubber, so the car doesn't rattle your brains out. :) New throttle cable. Damn, it's really amazing how long that little car has held on. :beat:


Id kill for rust free....

I can get em here all day if you want one. I dunno how hard it is to get a car into Canada, but I'm sure it's easier than getting it into the US.

Ichiban
01-02-2011, 03:13 PM
I can get em here all day if you want one. I dunno how hard it is to get a car into Canada, but I'm sure it's easier than getting it into the US.

2 rust free hatch doors and 1 hatch pleezz!:birthday:

2ndGenGuy
01-02-2011, 11:16 PM
You will have to let me know when you're back in BC, I'll get ya some doors and a hatch and bring em up for ya. Not sure how exactly I'll get them there though... Maybe time for a hitch!