Step by step DIY Webber convertion + question

I'll try and upload as many pictures as possible and make this thread as clear as I can .
but I'll need your help with some questions I have ..
I bought a new Redline Webber kit after deciding that rebuilding the original one doesn't worth it , also wanted to clear the engine bay .

so here we go ..

this is the new kit:

K&N filter
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...553F2E594D.JPG

adapter plates , bolts and levers
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...D4A374C748.JPG

and webber carb
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...1A7E1662FA.JPG
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...E3CF473F62.JPG
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...3504429752.JPG

https://www.3geez.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

started taking the old one apart:

http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...948A9687CB.JPG
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...B712F773F1.JPG
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...498AF314C2.JPG

this gasket was really really stuck !:mad:
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...E8378C4051.JPG

taking the original bolts down
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...A763A41C90.JPG

http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...859A41F998.JPG

a good clean
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...32DEA043BD.JPG

closing the water hole in the inlet manifold with "liquid metal"
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...1E09DACD4C.JPG

https://www.3geez.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

now a question ,
I want to start taking stuff down , wich part should I leave and wich one can be taken ( A B C D E F ) ?

http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...24F4D6CA98.JPG

this thread may help https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64982

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...1212441062.jpg

I found two threads about this convertion , but both aren't completely clear (to me)

here is one
https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38161

and the one you posted
https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64982

Great post! I just picked up a 32/36 DFAV and will be doing this very soon. I look forward to your updates and hope to learn from this. Thanks for all the pictures they are a huge help, the more the merrier!

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Originally Posted by ADRIANFARINA

now a question ,
I want to start taking stuff down , wich part should I leave and wich one can be taken ( A B C D E F ) ?

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A - Remove (Black Box)
B - Remove (AJC)
C - Remove (Hardlines)
D - Remove (Solenoids, I think they are for Auto Idle)
E - Remove (Air suction Valve Components, disconnect vacuum line to valve)
E #2- Remove (AC or Cruise control) I believe you can still use the vacuum holding canister and Cruise control solenoids without the black box and what not, if you want to keep your cruise.
F - Remove Secondary Thermovalve lines but keep the thermovalve in place.



Which parts in the weber conversion threads were unclear? I don't mind rewriting things.

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Originally Posted by A20A1

A - Remove (Black Box)
B - Remove (AJC)
C - Remove (Hardlines)
D - Remove (Solenoids, I think they are for Auto Idle)
E - Remove (Air suction Valve Components, disconnect vacuum line to valve)
E #2- Remove (AC or Cruise control) I believe you can still use the vacuum holding canister and Cruise control solenoids without the black box and what not, if you want to keep your cruise.
F - Remove Secondary Thermovalve lines but keep the thermovalve in place.



Which parts in the weber conversion threads were unclear? I don't mind rewriting things.

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So, pretty much remove everything boxed in red?

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Originally Posted by 87NoobMachine

So, pretty much remove everything boxed in red?

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If you want the simple answer, then yes :D

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Originally Posted by A20A1

If you want the simple answer, then yes :D

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What about the complicated answer? lol

today I've worked some more on the car ,
there are some solenoids and other components that are connected to the vacoom lines , here they are :

the big black box is going down , what about the small black unit with the three vacoom lines? also should be removed?
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...5FFBEACEE8.JPG

this is the left wing (if you stand in front of the car) there are two solenoids mounted on that wing (one is the blue one) m and two vacoom lines connected to these two (one is line #20) , should I take them off?
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...7E8CF842C7.JPG

what about the lines that go to the dist. ?
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...B7EC5A1DF7.JPG

these two are mounted on the right wing and have vacoom tube that go inside the wing (!!) , should I take them down? and where do the lines go !?
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...400B4A255D.JPG

what do I do with the unit that's located near the valve cover (one that ends at the black plastic box and starts with the large metal tube)?
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...25C39857D1.JPG

these two are located on the top shock mount (right one) , and have vacoom lines connected to it , should I take it down?
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...1F7DF3AB1F.JPG

this are near the inlet manifold , take them down?
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...BBE8E798F7.JPG

what about the black box connector ? just leave it hanging..?
http://www.pic.co.il/Files/A389AD0CC...CAC03B804A.JPG

note my picture, see anything missing... plenty

Ok every vacuum line and appliance connected to one can be removed EXCEPT
PVC valve
Brake Booster
Vacuum Advance on Distributor
Cruise control if you want to keep it

lines for windshiled washer remain

Plug for black box can just be disconnected and tucked away in that grommet where it comes out

A lot of vacuum ports need to be plugged off on the intake manifold, and a lot of bolts and brackets and junk can be removed
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...1212440978.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...1211403548.jpg

I always thought the small black box with 3 lines running into it is for California emissions models. I've never seen them on anything but California model cars. Was your car imported from the USA? You can remove that by the way. Pretty much as roodoo already said, you pretty much get rid of everything hooked to the carburetor in some form.

I suppose it's from the US..

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Originally Posted by roodoo2

note my picture, see anything missing... plenty

Ok every vacuum line and appliance connected to one can be removed EXCEPT
PVC valve
Brake Booster
Vacuum Advance on Distributor
Cruise control if you want to keep it

lines for windshiled washer remain

Plug for black box can just be disconnected and tucked away in that grommet where it comes out

A lot of vacuum ports need to be plugged off on the intake manifold, and a lot of bolts and brackets and junk can be removed

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Is that your stock intake man.?

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Originally Posted by 2ndGenGuy

I always thought the small black box with 3 lines running into it is for California emissions models. I've never seen them on anything but California model cars. Was your car imported from the USA? You can remove that by the way. Pretty much as roodoo already said, you pretty much get rid of everything hooked to the carburetor in some form.

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I thought that was an air jet correcter of some variety. My hatchy had that, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't California emissions. I would go out and check, but I don't have the original hood anymore.

^ I remember from my time working at Honda a mechanic saying it was some sort of altitiude compensator, standard for the 3gee, optional for the 2gee.

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Originally Posted by 2ndGenGuy

I always thought the small black box with 3 lines running into it is for California emissions models. I've never seen them on anything but California model cars. Was your car imported from the USA? You can remove that by the way. Pretty much as roodoo already said, you pretty much get rid of everything hooked to the carburetor in some form.

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By name it's the Air Jet Controller. It provides altitude compensation to maintain stoich air/fuel ratio by controlling the amount of air flow to the main and slow air jets of the primary carb throat. My car (made in Japan and imported in to Canada in 1989) is not California but has made several trips to the USA and there's one (AJC) under my hood. We have emission testing in my part of B.C., so a Weber conversion is out for now. I'll just continue to live with my under hood rubber jungle.:violin: I know it's between shit and syphillis.

mine has (well had) an air jet controller as well.
car was purchased in Bristol, TN in 1988 and has never left this area.
Granted I live in an area that on average is 2k feet above sea level so may have something to do with it.

so...I can put this part in the bin .. right?

yes. You only need to keep one line for the distributor, one for the brake booster, and one for the pcv. Everything else can go. Everything!

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Originally Posted by 87NoobMachine

Is that your stock intake man.?

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well.. I showed three different set ups Ive had, not sure which one youre refering to.
Yes, all of them shown here are stock intakes on the outside but all have been ported out underneath the carb too varying degrees.
This link is to my favorite set up
https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthrea...t=65894&page=2

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Originally Posted by roodoo2

well.. I showed three different set ups Ive had, not sure which one youre refering to.
Yes, all of them shown here are stock intakes on the outside but all have been ported out underneath the carb too varying degrees.
This link is to my favorite set up
https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthrea...t=65894&page=2

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Wow, that's way too much work for me to comprehend, but it looks super nice. Just wondering cause i was looking under my hood the other day and wondering why yours looked so nice, lol
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Originally Posted by 87NoobMachine

Wow, that's way too much work for me to comprehend, but it looks super nice. Just wondering cause i was looking under my hood the other day and wondering why yours looked so nice, lol
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nah dude, it looks intense, but it's really the best part about a weber... you get to rip shit off your car and feel awsome about it!