Cam Gear Feeler thread ... formerly GoldenEagle ACG round 2

[bobafett]

yay for php script!

do u do web programming acidX?

[Deadhead]

wow.... i read that, and actually understood it.... i feel like a geek LOL

I love the kaputnik you put in there

[Acid X]

I used to. My website host is down so i dont really have anywhere to tinker. I used to be really good at PHP.. I could do databasing, simple editing, i could generate images, i could probably write a whole site-management system if i felt so inclined...

Anyway. Back on topic.

[newaccorddriver]

I agree with the analysis by SwapFile. I think that disaster awaits those trying to use the 40 tooth sprocket on an A20AX engine. A few rotations and its all over.
I just took the picture(s). I don't endorse this valve bending, head busting, belt shreading experiment.
Sorry.

id say hand crank the engine, atleast you wouldnt do much damage if you happen to hit a valve... atleast its not hitting it at 900rpm with the force of the pistons going up and down

[bobafett]

yes i agree... hand cranking would take a long ass time, but at least u could get a clear idea and take careful measurements before you do damage. i dont know how many revolutions it would take before damage happens, my guess is that this would take a loooong ass time.

[b8er]

your probably right bobafett, but i would much much rather spend the hour or two or however long it takes you and make sure that the valves wont hit 4 or 5 revolutions in, instead of having to beuild my motor, aha

[Acid X]

Why would it take so long to hand-crank the motor?

[bobafett]

well if its gonna take several revolutions before its off enough to cause damage, then it will take a while to do that.... its not like 2 turns and its gonna damange anything (god i hope not)

[1987HondaAccord]

i'm guessing that it would take about 10 revolutions to be 180 degrees off. You should be able to tell well before that though. basically, if you get 3 revolutions into it, and its already off by 20 degrees, that's bad news.

[phrenology]

While we anxiously await results to see if these babies work let's take a closer gander...shall we?











Please work little cam gears...

[3gn86lxi]

Will you quit teasing us and figure out if they will work!!!!!!!!
Dammit.

[mkymonkey]

i know bastard!!!!!

[phrenology]

Yeah I just luv to tease you Geez.

"Hey if you guys don't settle down...there will be no gears for you!"

-The Cam Gear Nazi

[3gn86lxi]

Yeah I just luv to tease you Geez.
"Hey if you guys don't settle down...there will be no gears for you!"
-The Cam Gear Nazi

Dammit!
No soup for You!

[2drSE-i]

more soup for me?

[Cheeseburger]

so who and where are u guys testing the gears?

[mkymonkey]

mmmmmmmmmmm sooooouuuuup

[Vanilla Sky]

i really wish you guys would stop whoring this thread up.

[Acidbath88accordlx]

I like that color red... will look good in my engine bay... god i hope they work...

[Acid X]

Any updates?

[Acidbath88accordlx]

Yeah.. I was starting to forget about this thread...

[b8er]

updates?

[myaccord7]

i dont think these are going to work.






zach

[Acid X]

Wonder if he found out they dont work, and doesnt want to tell us? :p

[phrenology]

No, no, no...The bad part is I sent one out for testing and still haven't gotten any results. I've been busy and don't have time or a way to work on the problem myself. My car and all those tasty A20 parts are still in FL, and I won't be going back until next month.

All of these gears are clearly labeled 2.0L SOHC Honda Prelude/Accord. But Honda only made a couple of engines with that description. Our beloved/hated A20A1/3/4, the extremely rare F20A4 and the oddball B20A3.

Then there's the good part Through careful sleuthing I have discovered that these were probably intended for the rarer, elusive and somewhat mislabled...B20A3...(SOHC 2.0L 3rd Gen Prelude S [88-90] dual sidedraft) engine. I have yet to figure out if the B20A3 head/cam have any serious advantages/disadvantages and or compatibility issues with the A20 series. The only real way is to find a head or gasket kit and try to fit it to our block.

Perhaps Rjudgey has had some experience with the B20A3, I dunno I thought it was only a fluke for the USDM Prelude because they were already making DOHC FI Preludes during this period. Why stay with crappy factory dual sidedrafts and SOHC when you have the ability to produce a more powerful EFI Prelude? I dunno, nostalgia, cost, fuel economy?

So short answer no these are not a bolt solution to adjustable timing. Long answer since you guys wanted to know so badly I haven't given up on you. I'm busy trying to find a reliable source for bulk B20A3 timing belts & crank gears and I'm trying to figure out if they will even bolt up. I also need to examine the consequences or advantages to altering both the cam and crank gears. But as long as we maintain that happy ratio, then things should look good. If any of you have one of these gears laying around then post a pic please or at least count your teeth and I'll see what I can do about getting a cam gear out to you.

There is a prime example of a B20A3 for sale on ebay that I posted in another thread. But I don't have a place to put it even if I did buy it right now. So unless you guys want to do a little homework for yourselves, then I suggest you chill out or continue on with your G.E. group buy. I will not sell these parts until I'm satisfied that they work and have a practical application on our cars. So you can be disapointed or pissed off if you want, but at least no one here has any bent valves...

I agree with the analysis by SwapFile. I think that disaster awaits those trying to use the 40 tooth sprocket on an A20AX engine. A few rotations and its all over.
I just took the picture(s). I don't endorse this valve bending, head busting, belt shreading experiment.
Sorry.

Thanks for your vote of confidence.

Anyway those are the facts. If you guys can wait a few more weeks then I can do the job myself at the shop/junkyard. For now the preorder purchase list will remain up but I will not add or remove names right now.