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    I have a brand new front bumper cover for sell. If interisted make me an offer.
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    OK, suppose this is my official announcment and update thread for the new hatch addition...
    I had surgery last week and was bombarded with pollen and weather issues before that so today Is the first chance I felt like doing something to it.
    It had been sounding like a subaru, kind of a skip but not really ya know?
    Also it was pinging at highway speed with no load and I knew that couldnt be good either. Mileage was lousy, around 20.. power was all at the bottom, just off idle then poof it really wasnt torquey at all.
    So, I pulled the cam cover off and loosened the bracket that holds the AC hose bracket so that I could see a clear view of the flywheel marks.
    I removed all the spark plugs (new) so there would be no compression and I could turn the motor over easy by hand. Sure enough, the cam timing marks were lined up with the wrong marks on the flywheel. Someone had it timed up to the red mark. There are so many marks on the flywheel, it is easy to get confused. EVen some books do not reference the correct mark to set the valve timing with.
    I used the "T" mark which is near by the green dot. I loosened up the tensioner, which can be done outside of the cover without removing anything. Then slid off the T belt very carefully and turned the cam gear one knotch... slid it back on. Lucky for me this went without a hitch this time. Then I turned the motor over via a rachet and 17mm socket thru the wheel well, about 1.5 revolutions then tightened up the tensioner bolt (12mm)

    Wow what a difference, nice bit of power now and no "almost" misfire sounds...

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    Yes this car is fairly clean, and plans are to keep it stock. Most work done will be restorative.
    I have some A20 performance parts I am not using but I havent decided if I want to go that route with this car or not. My kid and I will be driving this over the summer and MPG/comfort/style is the goal on this one.

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    Man you gotta love easy fixes like that. So, how do you like the fuel injection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndGenGuy View Post
    Man you gotta love easy fixes like that. So, how do you like the fuel injection?
    same as always, I never was against it, just I feel like carbs are the way to go for raw dog power and fun. When comparing the two, I will usually take the side of carbs for my own reasons, one being I understand how they work and most people who chose to debate against carbs do not understand them which is why they don't like them.
    And Yes I understand EFI quite well, as well

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    Ok I got half the mouldings reblacked this afternoon, I will do the front and drivers side in a few days. The plastic coating was peeling off the window threshold mouldings so I peeled it all off and wet sanded with 320 then 800. I recaulked behind those so water wont get in there under the moulding. I had to remove the pop out window which was very easy but one of the hinge fasterner seemed to break. It is not holding well so I will have to take the window out again to see how I can tighten that up. I used Wurth semi gloss black moulding paint automotive, which is great stuff.
    I will post a better final product pic when I get more light, it got dark on me after I was done!



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    Looking good, more details on the paint, my moldings are up in my garage loft.It's odd how you can have a car all apart yet still know where everything is.

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    nice lookin good!! , i wish i could fix my timing problem but theres no marks on my flywheel

    1988 Honda Accord LX-i Coupe 123k miles.

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    I refuse to disassemble this car like that, I have buckets and coolers of parts now from just the two sedans. Threw away just as much too.
    Im going to JY today and see if there is an LXI sedan front bumpe cover and hood in beige, and large console armrest. The plastic clip nut thing that the screw goes in for the hatch side window broke, lower one. Should be easy enough to make something else work there so the window wont sag.

    CAH, get your crankshaft key way up , remove all plugs so you can turn the motor over freely..watch for the number one pistion to come up TDC ...then mark your flywheel bud...

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    Quote Originally Posted by roodoo2 View Post
    I refuse to disassemble this car like that, I have buckets and coolers of parts now from just the two sedans. Threw away just as much too.
    Im going to JY today and see if there is an LXI sedan front bumpe cover and hood in beige, and large console armrest. The plastic clip nut thing that the screw goes in for the hatch side window broke, lower one. Should be easy enough to make something else work there so the window wont sag.

    CAH, get your crankshaft key way up , remove all plugs so you can turn the motor over freely..watch for the number one pistion to come up TDC ...then mark your flywheel bud...
    it's too bad it's not an 89, i would send you a couple of spare windows, remember there are two kinds of vent windows, the mountings are not interchangeable, I found this out the hard way. you need windows from an 86-early 87 to get the right hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roodoo2 View Post
    CAH, get your crankshaft key way up , remove all plugs so you can turn the motor over freely..watch for the number one pistion to come up TDC ...then mark your flywheel bud...
    good idea man! ill do that when the weather allows

    1988 Honda Accord LX-i Coupe 123k miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roodoo2 View Post
    That's how nice my first coupe's engine bay was.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie View Post
    That's how nice my first coupe's engine bay was.

    It might be the camera, but check your motor mounts, I know the engine leans but that has a LOT of lean. check the motor mount near the timing belt to see if it's broke or worn, the motor will lean away from the mount if it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    It might be the camera, but check your motor mounts, I know the engine leans but that has a LOT of lean. check the motor mount near the timing belt to see if it's broke or worn, the motor will lean away from the mount if it is.

    1988 Honda Accord LX-i Coupe 123k miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civic Accord Honda View Post
    well mine has some lean but nothing close to that, and i have all new mounts

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    It might be the camera, but check your motor mounts, I know the engine leans but that has a LOT of lean. check the motor mount near the timing belt to see if it's broke or worn, the motor will lean away from the mount if it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    well mine has some lean but nothing close to that, and i have all new mounts
    I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie View Post
    I don't get it.
    I think it's just CAH talking out his ass, It looked like the engine was leaned way over.

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    ^ I think it's because of the damage, and the awkward angle of the picture.

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    not even close Charlie wtf.. besides why post a pic of a wrecked one to even attempt comparison? thats ok im going to start the project thread for this car soon and transfer the pics...
    I picked up a 88-89 bumper, it will not tighten up for some reason, I was tired by the time I got to that so I will figiure it out. Bolts tight, even snapped one off ughhh..
    Since Im going with black side moulding, the later style bumper completes the line around the car where as the early style really doesnt IMO. I will finally use the clear corners I got that go well with clear lense ts yay.
    Also on saturday I went out of town to a pull a part and found some rare parts. Sei cupholders, large style console matching color already! Im considering going back next weekend to get the disc brake conversion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roodoo2 View Post
    not even close Charlie wtf.. besides why post a pic of a wrecked one to even attempt comparison?
    I'm sure it's pretty damn close, even with having 100k+ on your car. And, I didn't have the car long enough to take pictures of the engine bay before the wreck. With a nice bath, even after the wreck, that car's bay would look just as nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie View Post
    I'm sure it's pretty damn close, even with having 100k+ on your car. And, I didn't have the car long enough to take pictures of the engine bay before the wreck. With a nice bath, even after the wreck, that car's bay would look just as nice.
    Check again freind your engine is fiilthy disgusting compared to mine. WTF dude..And my car has 84K miles, if you had read the thread you would have known that.
    If the thread had been about engine bay tidyness I could see you posting your dirty wrecked ass coupe there for all to see, but since is was a hatchback thread and you don't have a hatchback PLUS it was semi quazzie my hatch progress thread again WTF ... then you come back to argue..

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    right like what's with the comparison? of course it's "close" it's an a20a3... the engine that came in my coupe was "close" too... know why? it was an a20a3...

    i'm gonna start a thread on comparisons of 3geez and how similar all the 3geez are to each other...

    that deserves another ellipsis:

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    maybe one more...
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    ... and a few ellipisis more...



    dot dot dot, a habit I guess I should break, that and starting post with lower case for first word... where is Charlie's thread...I need to drop some ellipisis...looks like deer pooP.
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    this thread is turning into a ............................

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    Quote Originally Posted by roodoo2 View Post
    ... and a few ellipisis more...



    dot dot dot, a habit I guess I should break, that and starting post with lower case for first word... where is Charlie's thread...I need to drop some ellipisis...looks like deer pooP.
    oh i wasn't talking trash about your typing roodoo, i do the same exact thing. i hope it wasn't taken that way, i was doing it because in real life that's what i would be doing, "..."

    pausing to find words or for dramatic effect.
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