engine is crooked! WTF!

[POS carb]

I have been trying to figure out a problem with my engine, it is tilted!

The driver's side of the motor is sitting about 1-2 inches too low. There is also a nasty vibration/groaning on accelleration 1st-3rd gear, the lower the gear or harder I step on it the louder it gets, obly at certain RPMS (1900, 2200, 3000, 3500, something like that)
The driver motor mount has NO VERTICAL ADJUSTMENT, only side to side.
The rear mount has no adjustment, but I noticed I had an A/T mount... M/T is very similar
I swapped out all my mounts and it is still the same, wtf!

[POS carb]

info:
87 LX, auto to manual swap (DX tranny)
I changed the driver's side axle to a m/t model
I changed the rear motor mount bracket
I changed the rear motor mount (what a mission! Auto Zone does not offer a M/T mount!)
I changed the torque strut bushing to MT
According to MANCHESTER HONDA, all other engine mount part #'s match between auto and manual

MANUAL

FRONT MOUNT 57448 002 1 MOUNTING, ENGINE NO COLOR 76.25 53.38 Qty:
57457 010 1 BRACKET, FR. NO COLOR 43.91 30.74 Qty:

REAR MOUNT 76415 003 1 RUBBER NO COLOR 40.77 28.54 Qty:
76424 012 1 BRACKET, RR. NO COLOR 53.84 37.69 Qty:

SIDE MOUNT 76418 008 1 RUBBER NO COLOR 58.15 40.70 Qty:

TRANS MOUNT 48025 005 1 RUBBER, WIND STOPPER NO COLOR 29.07 20.35 Qty:
57451 007 1 BRKT, WIND STOPPER NO COLOR 42.95 30.07 Qty:

TORQUE ROD
43970 007 1 INSULATOR A NO COLOR 18.17 12.72 Qty:
76441 008 1 ROD, TORQUE NO COLOR 39.33 27.53 Qty:
15366 009 1 INSULATOR B NO COLOR 21.28 14.90 Qty:
76442 012 1 BRKT, L. TORQUE ROD NO COLOR 21.22 14.85 Qty:
76443 013 1 BRKT, R. TORQUE ROD NO COLOR 21.22 14.85 Qty:

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AUTO

FRONT MOUNT 57448 002 1 MOUNTING, ENGINE NO COLOR 76.25 53.38 Qty:
57457 010 1 BRACKET, FR. NO COLOR 43.91 30.74 Qty:

REAR MOUNT 76414 003 1 RUBBER NO COLOR 40.77 28.54 Qty:
REAR MOUNT 76416 003 1 RUBBER NO COLOR 40.77 28.54 Qty:
76423 012 1 BRACKET, RR. NO COLOR 56.29 39.40 Qty:

SIDE MOUNT 76418 008 1 RUBBER NO COLOR 58.15 40.70 Qty:

TRANS MOUNT 48026 005 1 RUBBER, WIND STOPPER NO COLOR 29.07 20.35 Qty:
57451 007 1 BRKT, WIND STOPPER NO COLOR 42.95 30.07 Qty:

TORQUE ROD
43970 007 1 INSULATOR A NO COLOR 18.17 12.72 Qty:
76441 008 1 ROD, TORQUE NO COLOR 39.33 27.53 Qty:
43972 009 1 INSULATOR B NO COLOR 21.28 14.90 Qty:
76442 012 1 BRKT, L. TORQUE ROD NO COLOR 21.22 14.85 Qty:
76443 013 1 BRKT, R. TORQUE ROD NO COLOR 21.22 14.85 Qty:

[BITESIZE]

Did you change the crossmember mounts that is directly underneath the tranny?

[2oodoor]

uhhh sometin is brokted, cracked tranny case, or bolts that hold the mount to the block or case are stripped out possibly??

[russiankid]

Like Bitesize said, did you change the cross member? They are different between the 5-speed and auto.

[BITESIZE]

Like Bitesize said, did you change the cross member? They are different between the 5-speed and auto.

The whole crossmember or just the crossmember tranny mount?

[BITESIZE]

#5

[russiankid]

The whole crossmember or just the crossmember tranny mount?

I think it was just the mount. Since the mount attaches to the tranny. When i get home if this hasn't been answered i will look at the shop manual.

[BITESIZE]

I ask this, becuase I have the same problem, but not as bad. I think it's my driver's side axle, just haven't had time to change it out. Plus my crossmember tranny mount is bad too. So it could be either.

[russiankid]

This is off-topic but what does #1 do? Nothing hangs on it.

[russiankid]

I ask this, becuase I have the same problem, but not as bad. I think it's my driver's side axle, just haven't had time to change it out. Plus my crossmember tranny mount is bad too. So it could be either.

Not sure all of my mounts have been changed. The 5-speed mount says MT on it.

[BITESIZE]

All of mine are MT's too, however the crossmember tranny mount is cracked into 2 pieces now lol.

[russiankid]

All of mine are MT's too, however the crossmember tranny mount is cracked into 2 pieces now lol.

That could be a problem....

[BITESIZE]

I tried to order from majestic honda, but they are on backorder. Check your crossmember mount pos carb.

[russiankid]

I tried to order from majestic honda, but they are on backorder. Check your crossmember mount pos carb.

Junkyard

[BITESIZE]

Junkyard

They are always shot! I've checked. All the parts places in town don't carry them too.

[russiankid]

Are you sure your left engine mount(near water pump) isn't bad and worn out?

[BITESIZE]

They are all brand new on mine.

[russiankid]

I looked up on hondapartsdeals.com and they seem to have it.

https://www.hondapartsdeals.com/hond...omponent=B++47

[russiankid]

Hm...i never had a problem with mine leaning to the left. Even after removing the tranny to replace the clutch, everything lined back up correctly and sits straight.

[BITESIZE]

I looked up on hondapartsdeals.com and they seem to have it.

https://www.hondapartsdeals.com/hond...omponent=B++47

Duh, i said it is on backorder...

[MessyHonda]

This is off-topic but what does #1 do? Nothing hangs on it.

its a dampener.....so if you take it out the car would shake like CRAZY....haha honda engineers

[BITESIZE]

its a dampener.....so if you take it out the car would shake like CRAZY....haha honda engineers

Does it really make that much of a differance...

[MessyHonda]

Does it really make that much of a differance...

trust me dude....picos car would not start because it would shake like crazy...i think he even took some pics. back when he swaped in his engine.

[POS carb]

hello...

#1 is a vibration damper, dunno how effective it is...

I changed the lower transmission mount (aka "wind stopper") to the m/t version (pn 48025) but according to the website the bracket is the same (pn 57451) and so is the crossmember brace (pn 76434) and both front (76440) and rear beams (76435). Mine is broken and the replacement that arrived today is incorrect.

I tried rotating the rear mount 180* to see if it helps, there is slightly less interference but it is still present as so is the tilt.

I went and pulled another rear mount bracket from a 5sp (all mounts were taken) I am going to try installing it to see if it helps but it looks identical to what is already installed

It feels like the motor is touching the firewall or the axles are groaning at the splines or maybe it's the diff......