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    Re: Innovative mount thread - REFUNDS

    times are hard man. the recession hits, and the good ol 'rob and steal' kicks in. oh well, its neither here nor there.

    AGAIN, i need CONTACT INFO. if ANYONE has a phone number or a mailing address, I NEED IT PLEASE.
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    that guy is a punk i found out the engine he sold me has a spun bearing....i feel ripped off too

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    Re: Innovative mount thread - REFUNDS

    so you met tommy I assume? did he tell you it was hurt or had low oil press?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MessyHonda View Post
    that guy is a punk i found out the engine he sold me has a spun bearing....i feel ripped off too
    x2 what's this all about?
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    Messy , you did not get ripped...wtf you got a deal. Spun bearing isnt shit, you could have a spun bearing in a running motor and not know it... depends on circumstances. Eventually it will rear its ugly head though.
    Replace the bearings and check the rods, those were H series wernt they?

    If you knew what the F about motors you should have expected such as many times as it blew HG and blow off got stuck closed as well. Pay Fn attention people. shit

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    Re: Innovative mount thread - REFUNDS

    Well, there's a lot of history here that I'm not part of, so I'm kind of limited to a couple of gratuitous comments:

    1. After the smoke clears on this, it seems like we have a source for the motor mounts, clearing up what has been a major problem for doing a popular swap. If we had the correct half shafts and a under-motor piece, we'd be golden? Yes? So even though it's bad right now for those people who are hanging, ultimately it looks good for the group. Maybe anyone buying a set of mounts from now on could donate an extra $$ into a fund to partially compensate those who (might have) lost their money.

    2. I guess the person who is missing in action was a pretty active participator, so I understand the reluctance of many to criticize him before all the facts are known. But, he took the money, and he's disappeared. This by itself is at best a severe case of bad manners, and at worst is inexcusable. You can hardly blame people for thinking the worst. This woman who wrote the cryptic message owes the people who put up their money a lot more explanation. Even people in jail can communicate with the outside *if they want to*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roodoo2 View Post
    Messy , you did not get ripped...wtf you got a deal. Spun bearing isnt shit, you could have a spun bearing in a running motor and not know it... depends on circumstances. Eventually it will rear its ugly head though.
    Replace the bearings and check the rods, those were H series wernt they?

    If you knew what the F about motors you should have expected such as many times as it blew HG and blow off got stuck closed as well. Pay Fn attention people. shit
    ... wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stat1K View Post
    ... wow.
    whats so wow a spun bearing isent the end of the world lol

    anyways i haven't received an email i dont know if its cause its not a primary email or cause they dont check it at all or maybe they deleted my messages
    i sent 2 of the same one, aether way it would be time for 'A20A3' to get a hold of the phone number and make a phone call say you will seek legal action if the money isent paid back

    its a sad state of affairs, i still dont think he ran off with the cash but with out proof i cant fight that and with 0 communication for aether of them now theres not much you can do. i say make the phone call if she dosent want to comply from there your hands are tied with legal action, like newest said you prolly wont get anything back money wise but you will get the satisfaction i guess that you made someones life more miserable (assuming the story she told is true)

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    Geddy that speaks volumes of your charactor, much respect man. That was awesome.


    Messy, I apologize for the dig, but I didnt see it coming, you jumping in the hating with an unrelated matter. Makes no sense.

    Stat1k, you did not lose any money did you? didnt you get your money back first? I am not sure if I am understanding your position, clarifY? thanks

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    Re: Innovative mount thread - REFUNDS

    Quote Originally Posted by ghettogeddy View Post
    whats so wow a spun bearing isent the end of the world lol

    anyways i haven't received an email i dont know if its cause its not a primary email or cause they dont check it at all or maybe they deleted my messages
    i sent 2 of the same one, aether way it would be time for 'A20A3' to get a hold of the phone number and make a phone call say you will seek legal action if the money isent paid back

    its a sad state of affairs, i still dont think he ran off with the cash but with out proof i cant fight that and with 0 communication for aether of them now theres not much you can do. i say make the phone call if she dosent want to comply from there your hands are tied with legal action, like newest said you prolly wont get anything back money wise but you will get the satisfaction i guess that you made someones life more miserable (assuming the story she told is true)
    I believe you are being ignored, but thanks for trying.

    The ebay account he was using has been renamed with recent activity. Doesn't really prove that he's still around, just that someone has access to the paypal and wants to be sneaky about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roodoo2 View Post
    Geddy that speaks volumes of your charactor, much respect man. That was awesome.


    Messy, I apologize for the dig, but I didnt see it coming, you jumping in the hating with an unrelated matter. Makes no sense.

    Stat1k, you did not lose any money did you? didnt you get your money back first? I am not sure if I am understanding your position, clarifY? thanks
    umm, what's so wow about it is that you people will defend someone until the end of time. first the dude peace's with everyone's money, "he's probably just in prison." "i'm sure he'll make it right!"

    then messy comes on with a spun rod bearing in a motor that apparently he wasn't told of, "shit happens dude you should have known better when you bought that bunk ass motor..."

    that's where wow comes from.

    as for my position in all of this roodoo, i don't like seeing people get screwed, especially not my friend, one of the only people on this board that knows these cars fucking backwards and forwards and helps people all day long. it's even more annoying that you guys are defending the person doing the screwing. especially when the shit is so blatant in my eyes. hell even the posts by "tommy's fiance" are verrrrrry reminiscent of his own typing and speaking style. you could say, "oh they're close so of course they probably sound or type the same." to which i would call BS like i've done on this whole situation.

    I guess i really just don't understand why someone has a legitimate beef and posts it and you fuckers feel it necessary to defend him. If he wants to be defended he should come in here and do it himself.
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    Re: Innovative mount thread - REFUNDS

    better yet, you want to type defenses for him, stick to THIS fucking thread: https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70210
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    No stat!k, you've had a negative swag to each and every detail concern this GB from the beginning. I cant help but make the same type swag towards your perspective in recalling the facts here. We did see you get booted (to put it nicely)
    That said, I do not hold any of this personal against you either. You are not helping anyone here get their parts or money, in fact you could be hindering it who's to say.
    I understand **********'s position as well, trust me. And true what you said about him, very knowledgeable and willing to share it. I hope he gets satisfactory results/or refund with his investment.
    I am not defending anyone here, only maintaining hopes that this will turn out well for all.
    You or anyone else that bumps the thread with blasting another member, I can't help but look at it and see unfair deflamation without solid proof either way, sooooo yes I am going to post something in attempt to descalate the BS.
    The direction I see some of this being pushed is counterproductive to the objective. Permenant personal loss has not been proven: delay of game true and unfortunate but crime in progress, I would like to hold doubt to that.

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    holy shit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stat1K View Post
    umm, what's so wow about it is that you people will defend someone until the end of time. first the dude peace's with everyone's money, "he's probably just in prison." "i'm sure he'll make it right!"

    then messy comes on with a spun rod bearing in a motor that apparently he wasn't told of, "shit happens dude you should have known better when you bought that bunk ass motor..."

    that's where wow comes from.

    as for my position in all of this roodoo, i don't like seeing people get screwed, especially not my friend, one of the only people on this board that knows these cars fucking backwards and forwards and helps people all day long. it's even more annoying that you guys are defending the person doing the screwing. especially when the shit is so blatant in my eyes. hell even the posts by "tommy's fiance" are verrrrrry reminiscent of his own typing and speaking style. you could say, "oh they're close so of course they probably sound or type the same." to which i would call BS like i've done on this whole situation.

    I guess i really just don't understand why someone has a legitimate beef and posts it and you fuckers feel it necessary to defend him. If he wants to be defended he should come in here and do it himself.

    i dont think u can access the computer from jail

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    Quote Originally Posted by roodoo2 View Post
    No stat!k, you've had a negative swag to each and every detail concern this GB from the beginning. I cant help but make the same type swag towards your perspective in recalling the facts here. We did see you get booted (to put it nicely)
    That said, I do not hold any of this personal against you either. You are not helping anyone here get their parts or money, in fact you could be hindering it who's to say.
    I understand **********'s position as well, trust me. And true what you said about him, very knowledgeable and willing to share it. I hope he gets satisfactory results/or refund with his investment.
    I am not defending anyone here, only maintaining hopes that this will turn out well for all.
    You or anyone else that bumps the thread with blasting another member, I can't help but look at it and see unfair deflamation without solid proof either way, sooooo yes I am going to post something in attempt to descalate the BS.
    The direction I see some of this being pushed is counterproductive to the objective. Permenant personal loss has not been proven: delay of game true and unfortunate but crime in progress, I would like to hold doubt to that.

    x2

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    Quote Originally Posted by blazin3gen View Post
    i dont think u can access the computer from jail
    so you know he's in jail? if you have any details that we don't have aside from assumptions please, by all means, share them, i'm all ears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stat1K View Post
    so you know he's in jail? if you have any details that we don't have aside from assumptions please, by all means, share them, i'm all ears.
    see the thing there is all you have are assumptions hes not. at least theres a post by someone close to him that somewhat says that hes in jail but we have nothing besides assumptions to support the fact that he ran off or is in jail.


    see this is the argument, he said she said. no one has solid proof. and i think from here on out whether your for or against tommy the allegations should just be left alone , there not help anything and there just gona continue till aether someone pays for legal aid or tommy shows up (if he does?)


    i mean the question still remains why would he go through the amount of trouble to buy a set or pr mounts send them in have them copied and get a group buy ready,
    then just take off with the money?
    the logic just doesn't make sense to me at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by stat1K View Post
    umm, what's so wow about it is that you people will defend someone until the end of time. first the dude peace's with everyone's money, "he's probably just in prison." "i'm sure he'll make it right!"

    then messy comes on with a spun rod bearing in a motor that apparently he wasn't told of, "shit happens dude you should have known better when you bought that bunk ass motor..."

    that's where wow comes from.

    as for my position in all of this roodoo, i don't like seeing people get screwed, especially not my friend, one of the only people on this board that knows these cars fucking backwards and forwards and helps people all day long. it's even more annoying that you guys are defending the person doing the screwing. especially when the shit is so blatant in my eyes. hell even the posts by "tommy's fiance" are verrrrrry reminiscent of his own typing and speaking style. you could say, "oh they're close so of course they probably sound or type the same." to which i would call BS like i've done on this whole situation.

    I guess i really just don't understand why someone has a legitimate beef and posts it and you fuckers feel it necessary to defend him. If he wants to be defended he should come in here and do it himself.
    Now you have pissed me off you little f**k. You really need to stop. And stop NOW!

    All you do is incite bulls*it. Now you are starting to use profanity as a personal attack on those of us that don't agree with you. You go screw yourself.

    You speak of friendship, yet you don't understand the meaning of the word.

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    ouch.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by stat1K View Post
    so you know he's in jail? if you have any details that we don't have aside from assumptions please, by all means, share them, i'm all ears.
    so then your making assumptions that u got ripped off right?

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    This thread makes me sad.

    I have no skin in this game. I didn't participate in the group buy so I don't care what happens. But I'm not terribly excited about seeing everyone gather round and hate on each other. Harvey and Stat1k, Tommy is obviously very highly respected on this board, and you probably aren't going to find a lot of help here. To say that he was passionate about these cars would be to put it mildly. He was doing things that the rest of us could only dream about and making us think about our cars in radical ways. There were only one or two other members in his league. So go handle yours. There are ways to find people beyond grousing in a random thread. This is a car board and there are only 4.2 billion pics of cars here, some of which are Tommy's car with the license plate number clearly visible. I was able to find one without spending a great deal of time at it. I'm surprised that you haven't and wonder how bad you really want your money back that you don't seem even to have looked. Once you find Tommy, you can serve him a demand letter and a summons if it comes to that. Having said that, don't get your hopes up too much about court. Courts are all about what's legal, not what's right. You could spend a lot of time and money finding Tommy and suing Tommy only to find that you get nothing because of some minor legal technicality about which you have yet to learn. You should do what you feel is right, but you'll probably come up empty handed in the end. Expressing your anger here is not helping anything so please just move things along in whatever direction you choose to and stop poisoning the atmosphere.

    I'm not taking sides. Something happened and we'll probably never know what it was. I just don't like seeing the rancor increase and spill over into other threads. Let's just resolve this and get back to making our cars better.

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    Re: Innovative mount thread - REFUNDS

    You know, as a complete outsider on this whole group buy. It seems pretty cut and dry.

    Said person took responsibility to collect money to have mounts made, then said person disappeared. This resulted in no mounts being delivered, and no money refunded.

    If he's as close to this community as people have said he is, you would think he would of said "oh btw...." about his absence before it came about. So things like this would not happen, however it would seem that did not happen.

    I can see where people feel ripped off/scammed. However, running around accusing people, talking shit, and running mouths/fingers in general will not get any of you anywhere.





    at the guy saying a spun bearing isnt noticable.

    that is all.





    oh and everyone should take a damn chill pill and figure out how to resolve this as an adult group, not a teenage thug shit talk fest.

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    Well for him to have added well im gonna go to jail on such and such date would say something was premeditative and i doubt it was that

    sorry for caps btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by wprocomp View Post
    so you met tommy I assume? did he tell you it was hurt or had low oil press?
    yeah i got to meet him at his place...twice...i even gave him a ride when we went to go take out money at the bank so the cam would record me giving him the money

    Quote Originally Posted by roodoo2 View Post
    Messy , you did not get ripped...wtf you got a deal. Spun bearing isnt shit, you could have a spun bearing in a running motor and not know it... depends on circumstances. Eventually it will rear its ugly head though.
    Replace the bearings and check the rods, those were H series wernt they?

    If you knew what the F about motors you should have expected such as many times as it blew HG and blow off got stuck closed as well. Pay Fn attention people. shit
    no he didnt build the motor just replaced the rings and bearrings...im going to let the machine shop have the final say...but the crank didnt look good...it has some scaring...

    for me it just looked bad...people build top of the line engines and some blow or spin a bearing within couple hundred miles

    i hope you guys get your money back

    Quote Originally Posted by stat1K View Post
    umm, what's so wow about it is that you people will defend someone until the end of time. first the dude peace's with everyone's money, "he's probably just in prison." "i'm sure he'll make it right!"

    then messy comes on with a spun rod bearing in a motor that apparently he wasn't told of, "shit happens dude you should have known better when you bought that bunk ass motor..."

    that's where wow comes from.

    as for my position in all of this roodoo, i don't like seeing people get screwed, especially not my friend, one of the only people on this board that knows these cars fucking backwards and forwards and helps people all day long. it's even more annoying that you guys are defending the person doing the screwing. especially when the shit is so blatant in my eyes. hell even the posts by "tommy's fiance" are verrrrrry reminiscent of his own typing and speaking style. you could say, "oh they're close so of course they probably sound or type the same." to which i would call BS like i've done on this whole situation.

    I guess i really just don't understand why someone has a legitimate beef and posts it and you fuckers feel it necessary to defend him. If he wants to be defended he should come in here and do it himself.
    yeah im sick of this... anyone can be typing under anyones acct

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