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    Re: changed water pump and now it smokes

    I doubt its a headgasket if all youre getting is a puff of smoke here and there and the car runs fine...



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    Re: changed water pump and now it smokes

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Snooz View Post
    I had odd white smoke puffs come out the tailpipe of my other car when the oil was over-filled. How're the brakes? We had someone on here with white smoke from a bunged up brake booster leaking brake fluid into the intake manifold. How's the car run otherwise? Is it great, except for the smoke or basically a big piece of junk? I'm honestly not sold on this being a head gasket problem. I've been wrong before and could be wrong now, but I'd make real sure about that diagnosis before going to all the work.
    well the car runs fine but the when you mention about the brake, my brakes are not the great, i am loosing brake fluid and my pedal feels spongy and i have to add brake fluid every now and then, i'm going to look into it in the morning

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    Re: changed water pump and now it smokes

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    change your oil, it might have water condensed in the oil from sitting and its going through the pcv system.
    i plan on changing the oil soon cause it is due for one

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    Re: changed water pump and now it smokes

    Quote Originally Posted by fijisac View Post
    well the car runs fine but the when you mention about the brake, my brakes are not the great, i am loosing brake fluid and my pedal feels spongy and i have to add brake fluid every now and then, i'm going to look into it in the morning
    there's your smoke, I'll bet if you pull the master the rear seal is shot and has eaten a hole in the booster diaphragm. you need to pull a vaccume on the booster and see if it leaks down. brake fluid smoke isn't blue because it's not petroleum based

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    Re: changed water pump and now it smokes

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    there's your smoke, I'll bet if you pull the master the rear seal is shot and has eaten a hole in the booster diaphragm. you need to pull a vaccume on the booster and see if it leaks down. brake fluid smoke isn't blue because it's not petroleum based
    well is there a special tool to pull vacuum or can i just use a hand vacuum pump?

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    Re: changed water pump and now it smokes

    Quote Originally Posted by fijisac View Post
    well is there a special tool to pull vacuum or can i just use a hand vacuum pump?
    hand pump. if the rear seal is gone on the master brake fluid will eat a hole in the booster diaphragm. then vacuum will suck brake fluid into the booster and it will be pulled into the intake manifold through the booster hose. pull the booster hose and stick a q tip around the inside edge of it you might find brake fluid.

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    Re: changed water pump and now it smokes

    so should just go ahead and replace the booster if the rear seal is gone and if there is brake fluid in the vacuum line going to the intake manifold?

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    Re: changed water pump and now it smokes

    Quote Originally Posted by fijisac View Post
    so should just go ahead and replace the booster if the rear seal is gone and if there is brake fluid in the vacuum line going to the intake manifold?
    if there is brake fluid in the line going to the intake, the booster diaphragm is perforated and it needs to be replaced, as well as a new master cyl. if it 's still holding vacuum it's a judgment call, if the rear seal had failed on the master,fluid could have gotten in there and chances are down the line it's going to fail.

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    Re: changed water pump and now it smokes

    Quote Originally Posted by nswst8 View Post
    Okay this is the way that I see it.

    No oil in the coolant
    No water in the oil pan
    No water coming from the tailpipe
    No coolant loss

    You should be good.

    Final check is the spark plugs.
    Keep an eye on these; I would not replace anything unless one or more of the above shows up.
    Replace old oil and filter according to user manual specs for grade, and your choice of brand or type of oil. Run the car at highway speeds to eliminate as much condensation from the exhaust as possible.
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    Re: changed water pump and now it smokes

    Quote Originally Posted by ecogabriel View Post
    Keep an eye on these; I would not replace anything unless one or more of the above shows up.
    Replace old oil and filter according to user manual specs for grade, and your choice of brand or type of oil. Run the car at highway speeds to eliminate as much condensation from the exhaust as possible.
    well i have been driving the car around 40 mph to 80 mph depending where I'm at and what the speed limit , and i notice that it only smokes when i pump the brakes and take off and when I'm cruising around 40 mph.



    update: i check my spark plugs and then are normal (regular wear and not coolant fouled) and i took a look at the big vacuum line from the booster and there was some fluid in the hose so I'm going to replace the master cylinder and brake booster

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    Re: changed water pump and now it smokes

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    there's your smoke, I'll bet if you pull the master the rear seal is shot and has eaten a hole in the booster diaphragm. you need to pull a vaccume on the booster and see if it leaks down. brake fluid smoke isn't blue because it's not petroleum based
    Great call Tim, I hadn't thought of that.
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    Re: changed water pump and now it smokes

    thank you every who had input on this thread because if i had never posted this, i would have ended up changing a head gasket and not addressing the real problem.


    thank you every one again

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    Re: changed water pump and now it smokes

    Quote Originally Posted by fijisac View Post
    well i have been driving the car around 40 mph to 80 mph depending where I'm at and what the speed limit , and i notice that it only smokes when i pump the brakes and take off and when I'm cruising around 40 mph.



    update: i check my spark plugs and then are normal (regular wear and not coolant fouled) and i took a look at the big vacuum line from the booster and there was some fluid in the hose so I'm going to replace the master cylinder and brake booster
    make sure to follow the directions on how to set the pushrod length in the booster, if you don't it will cause problems in the rear part of the master cyl and you might end up with this same problem again. what is happening is when you press the brakes it squirts fluid out the back of the master cyl, then under high manifold vaccume, such as taking your foot off the gas and pressing the brake, it sucks it through the bad booster diaphragm and into the intake. brake fluid is terrible for the rubber diaphragm in the booster it turns it into a gooey mess. I'm glad you caught it before you lost the rear part of the master cyl or the booster completely. according to Murphys law, it usually fails under panic braking,such as when the idiot on the cell phone cuts you off and you slam on the brakes.
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    Re: changed water pump and now it smokes

    Quote Originally Posted by nswst8 View Post
    Great call Tim, I hadn't thought of that.
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