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    Re: well time for a new battery

    Quote Originally Posted by DBMaster View Post
    I hope that's not the case with the one I bought last August. At least they have a long non pro-rated warranty. I think it is three years. The last one I had in there was the best battery the car has ever had. I think Wal Mart batteries are a lot better now than they were in the past. They changed manufacturers a few years ago. Before that I had one that lasted a mere 16 months. I have also had good luck with Delco batteries, believe it or not. The car came from the factory with a Delco and I bought one just before the Optima from a commercial battery place.
    good luck on the warranty, a lot of places had so many come back, they quit honoring them, they were great batteries, and the company took that great product and ruined it,like so many other good products. I had bought one by mistake for the civic, it quit in three months, took it back, was given a hard time, finally got another one, it lasted 2 months, warranty was refused, claimed it was the electrical system, I had already tested it and it's just fine, the optima became a very expensive lawn ornament, had bought a used walmart battery lasted fine for a while until it quit, put a new one in, and it's fine, the optima went to the dump on the day the city picked up anything.
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    Re: well time for a new battery

    damn lol read this

    When I bought the car, it had a Mopar battery and never had a problem with it. We noticed it was leaking one day so swapped it for an Optima Redtop....thats where the horror story began...

    I jumped in the Viper yesterday afternoon to go meet a friend I hadnt seen in a long time. Insert key, depress clutch, turn key....barely a whimper. Repeat process 3-4 times. For the FOURTH time in about 3 years...my $180 "top of the line" Optima Redtop battery was dead I jump out of the Viper, muttered several inappropiate words, hop in the daily driver and go meet my friend. I called the battery place (which was across the street from where we met) and explained I was already busy and going to Atlanta last night, so I didnt have time to go home, drop the rearend out of the Viper, take old battery back, get new battery and go home and install the new battery. The guy looked up my history and saw where this was my 4th Optima and said he'd give me a new one, but they were out of the redtops I needed. I asked him what in the hell made him think I'd EVER put an Optima in any car ever again? He said they had one other type of a completely sealed battery and he'd give me one of them. So, we went and he gave me a full refund on the Optima and sold me a $80 Werker battery (their own line of battery). When I take the old battery back Monday, he's going to give me a copy of my purchase history so I can write Optima a letter and suggest a few places where they shove their batteries. about optimas battery

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    i prefer napa or interstate batteries. Ive had shitty luck with low end die hard and never start batteries.
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    Re: well time for a new battery

    Quote Originally Posted by Shyboy88Lx-i View Post
    ...I jump out of the Viper, muttered several inappropiate words...
    More like APPROPRIATE words.

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    oh i didnt type that lol i copied it and pasted here lol man this guy was fired up

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    strange, we have a walmart brand in the civic, haven't had any problems with it, the old one was five years old and it heated up and started smoking.
    Everstart lasted me 3 years or so, but all I ran was the fuel pump, ignition, and light. No A/C, no stereo.
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    Re: well time for a new battery

    Quote Originally Posted by AccordEpicenter View Post
    i prefer napa or interstate batteries. Ive had shitty luck with low end die hard and never start batteries.
    The $100 Napa battery in my Sidekick was in the Pathfinder 3 years ago when I had my big system in it, and the Sidekick has an 8000lb Champion winch on the front. The battery is never low on juice and I can leave my headlights on just about all day and it will start with no problem.

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    just thought i would add my civic had a 7 year old diehard in it and it still worked except in winter it would die in winter everynight and by the time i sold the car if i played the radio for 10 minutes it would need a jump start, but for being a 7 year old battery its pretty good imo lol

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    in my 4 door i have a napa Exide Orbital its like optima...sealed....worked good for me...only thing is that it kinda dims but its because i have a 2360watt stereo...and i run all kind of electronics including my msd box and radar detector

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    thats the other reason i'm going with odysey,they make their own batteries right here.
    I had never heard of them before you mention them here! Ok so today I was in Charleston at the SGFMA annual gathering and those Odesey battery guys were there. Very interesting schpleel they have. He even offered a buy back deal. The CCA is way higher than the spec supposedly. The guy kept saying they were dry cell, then I asked him later if they had lead acid and he said yes.(lol) The lead is some kind of virgin high quality type. They have my attention.
    The Optima guys were there, and I mentioned the bad mouth about them on the net.. one of them walked off and left the one guy to fend for the product. He said the only difference in them from before is the labor. I find it hard to believe that Mexicans putting them together is the quality issue. First thing that comes to my mind is somehow the materials are being bootlegged.

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    The best battery I ever had was a Die Hard Incredicell. I might be dating myself here, but I put one of those in my 72 Catalina in 1985. It was still going string in 1990 when I sold it. That was back when Johnson Controls made Sears' batteries. I discovered that you could pull the battery from the car to remove the top half and add distilled water to it. It was diminutive in size. but it outlasted any battery that had been used in the car for 18 years. I have been looking for something that good ever since. That car was hard on batteries as it took over 250 amps just to start it.

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    I think, I'm getting the feeling Tim does not like optima batteries.
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    Re: well time for a new battery

    Quote Originally Posted by nswst8 View Post
    I think, I'm getting the feeling Tim does not like optima batteries.
    yeah....too much time reading stuff online....i bought one and im happy...thats cuz i bought it with my own money and i didnt want to mess around with any other batt....yeah the odesey batt looks cool and all but sometimes you just need a oem replacement one

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    Quote Originally Posted by MessyHonda View Post
    yeah....too much time reading stuff online....i bought one and im happy...thats cuz i bought it with my own money and i didnt want to mess around with any other batt....yeah the odesey batt looks cool and all but sometimes you just need a oem replacement one
    i sent a brand new optima to the dump after replacing it and then no one would honor the warranty a second time, they are dog shit. It's not just me but a lot of people. they ruined a good product, sent it to another country, raised the price, and lowered the quality.

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    i sent a brand new optima to the dump after replacing it and then no one would honor the warranty a second time, they are dog shit. It's not just me but a lot of people. they ruined a good product, sent it to another country, raised the price, and lowered the quality.
    well im lucky.....my napa guy just defects stuff out for me and hooks me up

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    Quote Originally Posted by MessyHonda View Post
    well im lucky.....my napa guy just defects stuff out for me and hooks me up
    I used to do stereo stuff, back then they were the battery to have, it was a great product, why they changed it, i have no idea, but they ruined them . I don't know anyone who even puts them in anymore, as far as stereo stuff, they know it will come back. the link I had earlier was a feedback thread to Johnson controls about them, they had to close it they got so much negative feedback.

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    as soon as i can get the money up and bolt down this battery box, i'll be putting an odyssey in mine, I did my research and it works best for me. I want a battery where i can turn on the master switch and it's always ready.

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    I used to do stereo stuff, back then they were the battery to have, it was a great product, why they changed it, i have no idea, but they ruined them . I don't know anyone who even puts them in anymore, as far as stereo stuff, they know it will come back. the link I had earlier was a feedback thread to Johnson controls about them, they had to close it they got so much negative feedback.
    yeah i know it was the batt to get back in the day...i asked the guy if they got any returns on them and he said not alot of them got returned back...but yeah we will see...i only had it for 2 weeks...il let you know after couple months or maybe even years

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    I wanted to get an Optima but I will definitely stray away from them, now... My dad's old boss has a little tiny Odyssy (looks like a Motorcycle battery) in his competition Samurai buggy. That's what they like to use at Trail Tough. And his son has a red top in his DD Samurai and I see it dead after a week sitting at the shop, but I think it's 7-8 years old.

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    Quote Originally Posted by Bass Man View Post
    I wanted to get an Optima but I will definitely stray away from them, now... My dad's old boss has a little tiny Odyssy (looks like a Motorcycle battery) in his competition Samurai buggy. That's what they like to use at Trail Tough. And his son has a red top in his DD Samurai and I see it dead after a week sitting at the shop, but I think it's 7-8 years old.
    you can get the odysseys in different sizes too, i built my box for a pc625, which is a little smaller then most, but i don't plan on running the radio with the car off or anything, and I don't have a huge stereo. all the electronics in the car as far as the alarm are just temp loads, the draw of the brain is so small it won't matter much. I have the kilowatt draw of the starter in the car, so i'll calculate it out to amps, I know mine is the geared one,which pulls a whole lot less current then the non geared one. eventually when it's back on the road,i'll probably put in another odyssey somewhere isolated,just to run the stereo with the car off.

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    you can get the odysseys in different sizes too, i built my box for a pc625, which is a little smaller then most, but i don't plan on running the radio with the car off or anything, and I don't have a huge stereo. all the electronics in the car as far as the alarm are just temp loads, the draw of the brain is so small it won't matter much. I have the kilowatt draw of the starter in the car, so i'll calculate it out to amps, I know mine is the geared one,which pulls a whole lot less current then the non geared one. eventually when it's back on the road,i'll probably put in another odyssey somewhere isolated,just to run the stereo with the car off.
    This I'd like to see this. I want to run a second battery but have no idea how to do it correctly.

    Could you explain it to me as if I was a 5 year old.
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    Re: well time for a new battery

    Quote Originally Posted by nswst8 View Post
    This I'd like to see this. I want to run a second battery but have no idea how to do it correctly.

    Could you explain it to me as if I was a 5 year old.
    well if you are running a small battery like the odyssey, you can either run a battery isolator box, or run the two in parallel and use a constant duty solenoid wired to the ignition, when the ignition is on, the solenoid is energized, and both batteries are connected to the charging system, when you switch off the ignition, the solenoid opens and the second battery is isolated, you wire the stereo to the second battery

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    I have the kilowatt draw of the starter in the car, so i'll calculate it out to amps, I know mine is the geared one,which pulls a whole lot less current then the non geared one.
    That's only an 80-85 amp draw.

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    Re: well time for a new battery

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    well if you are running a small battery like the odyssey, you can either run a battery isolator box, or run the two in parallel and use a constant duty solenoid wired to the ignition, when the ignition is on, the solenoid is energized, and both batteries are connected to the charging system, when you switch off the ignition, the solenoid opens and the second battery is isolated, you wire the stereo to the second battery
    I need pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nswst8 View Post
    I need pictures.
    well i have wiring all over my car right now, but i will try and find a diagram

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