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    georgia members help me!!!

    my car isnt running and i dont know whats wrong with it i need it to run and if icant im crushing it... plz help me
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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    Well we can't help you if you don't fully explain the problem lol and. Have you tried searching?

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    it runs so damn rough and it shuts off after i put it into gear
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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    when was the last time you did a tune up

    oil
    oil filter
    gas filters
    fuel injection cleaner
    had the timing done
    seeing as its an lxi you should be able to pull a code form the cpu under the seat just watch for the blinking lights and give us a number im sure we can give you an answer form that if there is a code that is

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    i havent cuz ive never really gotten to drive it... honestly im thinking about selling it to anyone who has the time money to do anything to it.... any takers? id be willing to let it go for like 900 it may be negotiable but i really just need a car
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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    sorry but to me no 3g specially in a non running state is worth 900 ive never spent more then 500 and that was on my full running 87 lxi hatch

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    instead of being pissy and just saying you will crush it, post something useful about what the problem is. we can't help you with something as vague as it runs rough

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    ok my bad people yesterday was just a bad day.. heres the theory of whats wrong with it.... i replaced the sparkplugs and the sparkplug wires yesterday and the sparkplug on the far left didnt want to go in. i got my friend to come and try to put it in and he said i may need to rethread the hole but he wasnt for sure. i figured since i have to rethread anyways to try to make it go in. we started slow trying to get the plug to follow the threads as good as they would and then he got about 3/4 of the way in and he grabbed an air rachet and just forced it the rest of the way in... another problem could be i dont remember the sparkplug wire order if i remember correctly its 1,3,2,4 on the block but im not sure. the cars done this before when it was low on gas so i added gas in hopes of a change... no results thats why i was in such a pissy mood guys sorry...
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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 88lxi-shortram View Post
    ok my bad people yesterday was just a bad day.. heres the theory of whats wrong with it.... i replaced the sparkplugs and the sparkplug wires yesterday and the sparkplug on the far left didnt want to go in. i got my friend to come and try to put it in and he said i may need to rethread the hole but he wasnt for sure. i figured since i have to rethread anyways to try to make it go in. we started slow trying to get the plug to follow the threads as good as they would and then he got about 3/4 of the way in and he grabbed an air rachet and just forced it the rest of the way in... another problem could be i dont remember the sparkplug wire order if i remember correctly its 1,3,2,4 on the block but im not sure. the cars done this before when it was low on gas so i added gas in hopes of a change... no results thats why i was in such a pissy mood guys sorry...
    he FORCED the spark plug in with an air ratchet? you need to fire your friend, the threads were probably dirty and needed to be chased, now you may need a helicoil or a new head, you don't force a spark plug in EVER, on any engine. you just learned a very expensive lesson, and find friends who have a clue what they are doing. you might have needed to put your wires in the correct order or something, now there's a good chance you have major damage
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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    on the block the cylinders are right to left 1234. the cap should have numbers for which wires go where. also change your fuel filter as many people done realize that it needs to be changed at least once a year depending on mileage.

    and with the plug forced in i would offer 300 maybe 400. the head would have to be removed to either use helicoil or be replaced.
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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    i dont think the threads are to bad do yal think theres any possibilty to rethread?
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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 88lxi-shortram View Post
    i dont think the threads are to bad do yal think theres any possibilty to rethread?
    you probably need to do a helicoil, if the plug was forced in, it's probably cross threaded, it's a sot aluminum thread, you are supposed to hand start then torque,

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    and heilcoil would mean to ___?
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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    ok that helps me understand alot better but i still dont understand a few things.
    1) what size kit should i buy?
    2) how do i make sure my sparkplugs will sit fit in the new helicoil?
    3) will it really work on our blocks? im almost positive that they are steel not aluminum correct?
    4) lol anyone willing to come out and help me do it?
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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 88lxi-shortram View Post
    3) will it really work on our blocks? im almost positive that they are steel not aluminum correct?
    block is steal but the plugs go into the head lol witch is aluminum

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    Quote Originally Posted by 88lxi-shortram View Post
    ok that helps me understand alot better but i still dont understand a few things.
    1) what size kit should i buy?
    2) how do i make sure my sparkplugs will sit fit in the new helicoil?
    3) will it really work on our blocks? im almost positive that they are steel not aluminum correct?
    4) lol anyone willing to come out and help me do it?
    I'm not sure off the top of my head on the spark plug size, but you will need a spark plug helicoil kit, it's going to be a bit expensive, don't go for an off brand, get the real one, you are probably going to have to pull the head anyway to do it right, if you don't know what you are doing, i wouldn't try it. also the plugs aren't in the block,they are in the head. the head is aluminum. since you have to pull the head, take the head to an automotive machine shop, if you have the head pulled,it's no big deal for a shop to put in a helicoil, probably a lot cheaper then having to buy the kit. if you were closer to me, and had the head I could do it for you, but you still need the plug helicoil kit.
    Last edited by lostforawhile; 06-15-2010 at 04:41 PM.

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    14mm , this is probably your best bet for repair, it's 14X1.25 http://www.tooldiscounter.com/ItemDi...kup=HEL5334-14 i told the guy at Summit,when i was trying to find the kit, and he was laughing so hard he was almost in tears, he said he has NEVER head of someone stripping out a plug hole with an air tool before.

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    so ive got to take the head off? i hope not cuz i have no idea how to do any kind of internal work...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 88lxi-shortram View Post
    so ive got to take the head off? i hope not cuz i have no idea how to do any kind of internal work...
    the kit i posted, i think you can use it with the head on, you'll have to rig a piece of tube with a vaccume cleaner hose or something, to try and remove the shavings from inside of the engine. bring the piston up near top dead center first.

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    if you had the head off, you could drill holes in the pistons to make them lighter, jk,jk,jk

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    im gonna see if i can get some some taking it off and putting it back on from somebody cuz to me that seems like cutting corners and i like to do things the right way... despite me and my dumass friend forcing in the plug
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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 88lxi-shortram View Post
    im gonna see if i can get some some taking it off and putting it back on from somebody cuz to me that seems like cutting corners and i like to do things the right way... despite me and my dumass friend forcing in the plug
    well it's not always cutting corners to repair the threads with the head on, it depends on the general condition of the car on whether removing it is worth the effort. if you vacuum out the cyl and use a little grease on the tap to catch chips, i think you would be ok

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    Re: georgia members help me!!!

    thats the main problem though even though i strive to be a mechanic i dont know what your talking about or how to do it most of the time. i love to learn new things about cars and being on this forum helps tremndously but when it comes down to it i need a partner to work with because im inexpierienced and my dad couldnt find his way around a honda for his life. is there anyway i could get the head off w/o removing the engine? which would be easier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 88lxi-shortram View Post
    thats the main problem though even though i strive to be a mechanic i dont know what your talking about or how to do it most of the time. i love to learn new things about cars and being on this forum helps tremndously but when it comes down to it i need a partner to work with because im inexpierienced and my dad couldnt find his way around a honda for his life. is there anyway i could get the head off w/o removing the engine? which would be easier?
    of course you can remove the head and leave the engine in the car, but if you have no knowledge at all, best to get the kit and fix it on the car,

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