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    New shock option??

    I dont know if anyone was aware of this, but KYB lists the same part number for 3rd gen Accords and 3rd Gen preludes, for the front only.


    Ok so does bilstein.... tokico does not though. Anyone have any insight?


    this is 86-89 Accords and 88-91 preludes. Front only, as i said.
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    Re: New shock option??

    Quote Originally Posted by 2drSE-i View Post
    I dont know if anyone was aware of this, but KYB lists the same part number for 3rd gen Accords and 3rd Gen preludes, for the front only.


    Ok so does bilstein.... tokico does not though. Anyone have any insight?


    this is 86-89 Accords and 88-91 preludes. Front only, as i said.

    Advanceautoparts.com says the Monroes are the same as well as the KYBs.
    Bilstein lists some that fit the 88 Accord and 89 Prelude, but also lists other models for the Accord that don't fit the Prelude.

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    Re: New shock option??

    i noticed that as well cygnus. I'm finding a BUNCH of suspension shit that matches other cars that i think will help a great bit. Rear lower shock bushings are WIDELY compatible.

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    this means we have an option for rear shock bushings in poly. I know someone posted about the civic one fitting, but this is confirmation.
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    Re: New shock option??

    Prothane lists a rear shock bushing for the CRX

    88-95 Rear Shock Bushing Kit* 8-902
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    Re: New shock option??

    88-89 prelude front springs are the same as well. I think the difference in models available for accord/preludes is due to spring rate differences.
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    Re: New shock option??

    Quote Originally Posted by 2drSE-i View Post
    88-89 prelude front springs are the same as well. I think the difference in models available for accord/preludes is due to spring rate differences.
    So the 90/91s are incompatible?

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    Re: New shock option??

    I wouldn't say that. They arent listed as compatible, but the geometry is the same. I would venture to say that they are compatible, but their spring rates are stiffer.
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    Re: New shock option??

    This is what I have been using for spring rate charts. From memory the Prelude rates were the same but please check. Other thing to look at is the size of the coil spring to make it work with our spring width or what every width you are going to use. I think its is 2.5" front and 3 " rears.



    The stock Honda spring rates are Moog CC248 rates listed as 278 lbs/.in.

    The rear Moog CC221 is 170 lbs/.in.

    Those are the replacement variable rate springs.


    http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,ca...20for%20BISHKO

    heres the chart


    http://bbb-carb.com/moog_Coil_Springs.htm

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    Re: New shock option??

    prelude shocks fit perfectly, might be stiffer tho. but with the accord tophat and spring you wont even know

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    Re: New shock option??

    Quote Originally Posted by AccordB20A View Post
    prelude shocks fit perfectly, might be stiffer tho. but with the accord tophat and spring you wont even know
    so 3g prelude front shocks are an option for our accord suspension needs?

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    Re: New shock option??

    Quote Originally Posted by 2drSE-i View Post
    i noticed that as well cygnus. I'm finding a BUNCH of suspension shit that matches other cars that i think will help a great bit. Rear lower shock bushings are WIDELY compatible.

    ACURA CL (1997 - 1999)
    ACURA INTEGRA LS (1986 - 1989)
    ACURA INTEGRA RS (1986 - 1989)
    ACURA INTEGRA SE 1988
    ACURA INTEGRA SPECIAL EDITION LS 1987
    ACURA LEGEND (1986 - 1990)
    ACURA LEGEND L (1987 - 1990)
    ACURA LEGEND LS (1987 - 1990)
    ACURA TL (1995 - 1998)
    ACURA VIGOR GS (1992 - 1994)
    ACURA VIGOR LS (1992 - 1994)
    HONDA ACCORD 1987
    HONDA ACCORD 10TH ANNIVERSARY 1993
    HONDA ACCORD 25TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION 1996
    HONDA ACCORD DX (1986 - 1997)
    HONDA ACCORD EX (1990 - 1997)
    HONDA ACCORD EX-R (1991 - 1997)
    HONDA ACCORD EXI (1987 - 1989)
    HONDA ACCORD LX (1986 - 1997)
    HONDA ACCORD LXI (1986 - 1989)
    HONDA ACCORD S (1988 - 1989)
    HONDA ACCORD SE (1991 - 1997)
    HONDA ACCORD SEI 1989
    HONDA ACCORD VALUE PACKAGE (1996 - 1997)
    HONDA CIVIC (1985 - 1988)
    HONDA CIVIC 1300 1987
    HONDA CIVIC 1500 (1985 - 1987)
    HONDA CIVIC 1500 DX (1984 - 1988)
    HONDA CIVIC 1500 GL 1984
    HONDA CIVIC 1500 S (1984 - 1987)
    HONDA CIVIC 1500 SI (1986 - 1987)
    HONDA CIVIC 4WD 1988
    HONDA CIVIC CRX (1985 - 1987)
    HONDA CIVIC CRX 1.5 1984
    HONDA CIVIC CRX HF (1985 - 1987)
    HONDA CIVIC CRX SI (1985 - 1987)
    HONDA CIVIC DX (1984 - 1988)
    HONDA CIVIC GL 1986
    HONDA CIVIC LX 1988
    HONDA CIVIC SE 1988
    HONDA CRX 1300 1984
    HONDA CRX 1500 HF 1988
    HONDA CRX DX 1988
    HONDA CRX SI 1988


    this means we have an option for rear shock bushings in poly. I know someone posted about the civic one fitting, but this is confirmation.
    The lowers fit, but the uppers are too small. They do fit in the front though.
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    Re: New shock option??

    who cares about the fronts.. the backs mothafucka, do you have them


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    Re: New shock option??

    yeah the backs are a ass. good to know very good info


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    Re: New shock option??

    exactly whats not fitting in the back? has anyone ever taken a picture?

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    Re: New shock option??

    lower shock bushings. i had to use a pair off a defferent car i forgot thou. reason beening they didnt have any for a 86 accord. but they fit.


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    Re: New shock option??

    Quote Originally Posted by Rendon LX-i View Post
    lower shock bushings. i had to use a pair off a defferent car i forgot thou. reason beening they didnt have any for a 86 accord. but they fit.
    Rear Prelude struts fit with an OE bushing (from another car)?

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    Re: New shock option??

    The lower shock bushing in the rear, that is listed for the 3g accord, does not actually fit on our cars. The ones that i found, listed for the civic/integra do fit.

    Oldblue: The moog springs listed for the 3g accord are also listed for the 88-89 Preludes.
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    Re: New shock option??

    Quote Originally Posted by Joay View Post
    Rear Prelude struts fit with an OE bushing (from another car)?
    no, the rear prelude shocks dont fit with another bushing. What we are talking about is a bushing fitting from another car.
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