F*ck Fry's. Tell me if this is possible:

[charliekuney]

I got a new deck installed Friday afternoon. Later that night I was driving around, and it was hella cold, so I decided to turn my heat on. Turns out, the heat-cold slider thing won't move (well, it would move a little, but slide back to the cold side). I call Fry's the next morning, and they told me to bring it right in. After checking it out, they told me that the cable that controls the switch is 'kinked', and that it was a complete coincidence that it broke the same day I got my deck installed, and started blaming me and making up lame-ass excuses. Bull sh*t!

Is it possible, in any way, that the Fry's technicians could have messed up the cable? I can't afford a diagnostic ($120), new cable ($50), and installation ($50) from the Honda dealer by my place.

[ghettogeddy]

no
lol deck installs on 3gs are super simple and to be honest they would have had to do a hell of alot to kink/break that cable i mean maybe when/if they installed the back security bar but still they would have to do a hell of alot

[lostforawhile]

if you've seen some of the installs by "pros" i've seen i wouldn't doubt they did it. they might have tried to move it out of the way then tried to jam in the radio. you ought to see the mess the best buy installers made of the 98 putting in the alarm,this was before i bought it. they didn't even anchor the remote start or alarm module down, just stuffed it up in the dash along with all the wires. i wouldn't mess with chain store free install places. they are probably the guys who were rejected by mcdonalds. I worked for a place like that for exactly one hour before i walked out. was told i wasn't paid to bundle wires and we were using wire nuts for home electrical wiring. 30 minutes to put in a full alarm and use whatever shortcuts possible. this was for a big name chain that is no longer in buisness. i quit,i'm not going to do that kind of shoddy work.

[charliekuney]

The switch/slider works now, but not correctly.

[lostforawhile]

The switch/slider works now, but not correctly.

it's attached back there with a metal clip, they might have yanked on the cable or something. was this a free install place?

[charliekuney]

Fry's charges $40 per section (front two speakers, rear two, sub/amp, deck, etc.), so I paid $80, and I'm hoping to get $40 back, and have them pay for the part and installation. They (Fry's) showed me that the cable is still hooked up and (partially) functional.

[lostforawhile]

Fry's charges $40 per section (front two speakers, rear two, sub/amp, deck, etc.), so I paid $80, and I'm hoping to get $40 back, and have them pay for the part and installation. They (Fry's) showed me that the cable is still hooked up and (partially) functional.

well if they are charging that small of an amount and trying to make a profit on the radio, chances are the guys working back there aren't getting paid much,and really don't care how much they damage, i've know a lot of them like that. most of those chain stores "certify" the guys in house,which means they can strip a wire. for that kind of money you could have gotten an adaptor plug, and installed the radio yourself for about 20 bucks. it's really easy and lots of info on here

[2oodoor]

yes they could, if they tried stuffing three miles of wire behind the radio, and the antenna wire not secured too.. .geeeesh

[charliekuney]

...and the antenna wire not secured too...

You should see the back of my new deck. More wires than five of my previous decks, combined.

[lostforawhile]

yes they could, if they tried stuffing three miles of wire behind the radio, and the antenna wire not secured too.. .geeeesh

i should have taken off my lower dash panel in the civic to show you the best buy mess when i was up there. i don't have time to fix it now, it's so bad i'm going to have to deactivate the air bags and remove the dash to repair the damage. these were supposed "pros" i found a marker tag in there is how i know it was best buy

[lostforawhile]

You should see the back of my new deck. More wires than five of my previous decks, combined.

i've seen some of these installation guys take a plastic hammer and beat on a radio until it clicks into the sleeve. this is after stuffing the wires into the dash. there isn't a lot of room behind the the radio in the three g, a good shop would have know to pull the wires down under the radio and secure them under the dash.

[Civic Accord Honda]

thats why i install my own decks !, hope you get it all sorted out

[AccordB20A]

Times like these i love climate control. No damn cables going into the dash.

[ghettogeddy]

i still dont think they could have done anything to kink or break that wire its decent thickness

[lostforawhile]

i still dont think they could have done anything to kink or break that wire its decent thickness

those cables are a wrapped flat piece of metal in a plastic housing, the cable part is inside of that, it doesn't take much to kink a cable like that at all.

[carotman]

These cable cannot get kinked by themselves unless you apply force when the water valve is jammed in the enginebay or the cold/heat flap is stuck in the heater core.

Also, the cable is a solid core unit and can't get kinked beyond repair from normal use. Someone HAS to kink it manually.

[ghettogeddy]

These cable cannot get kinked by themselves unless you apply force when the water valve is jammed in the enginebay or the cold/heat flap is stuck in the heater core.

Also, the cable is a solid core unit and can't get kinked beyond repair from normal use. Someone HAS to kink it manually.

it would have to have eather intentional or it jsut broke lol

[lostforawhile]

These cable cannot get kinked by themselves unless you apply force when the water valve is jammed in the enginebay or the cold/heat flap is stuck in the heater core.

Also, the cable is a solid core unit and can't get kinked beyond repair from normal use. Someone HAS to kink it manually.

it's the housing that gets kinked not the cable inside of it, he said it works but isn't right,it's possible they yanked on it and put it out of adjustment. with the mickey mouse crap i've seen with people trying to install stereos, who aren't qualified to drop fries, anything is possible.

[Hazwan]

thats why i install my own decks !, hope you get it all sorted out

This. I'd rather do everything myself. I won't let anyone touch the wiring in my car!

[AccordB20A]

^^^^^same here but i like to customise everything and i wont pay anyone to do something that ill probably change when i get it home lol

[charliekuney]

Oh, I forgot to mention something. When I took my car back on Saturday, the morning after, they attempted to fix it, and you guessed it; they f*cked up the cable going to the little tab between the two middle vents that turns them on or off. Now that doesn't work, either.

[ghettogeddy]

dude
they would have had to remove liek your entire dash to even get close to most of that lol if they did that much work for a stereo thats should only take about 20 mins to install they do suck lol

[charliekuney]

...should only take about 20 mins to install they do suck lol

It took them two hours.

[ghettogeddy]

It took them two hours.

ya no way in hell unless they were busy does it take 2 hours
even if they soldered everythign witch i know they did not cause they have a policy that everythign must be done with adapters
bell connectors and metra plugs thats it
k
and i can wire a harness in like 10 mins ask messy i did his on the way to picos lol

[Ichiban]

Some installer idiots decided to pry up the passengers side airbag cover in my gf's crapalier. The airbag cover that is ON TOP of the dash and nowhere near the stereo. She took it back a bunch of times, but it stayed damaged until she got rid of the car.